Posted on 04/09/2006 2:27:55 PM PDT by LurkedLongEnough
ROTTERDAM, Netherlands -- The new test for foreigners who want to apply for Dutch residency is, well, very Dutch.
It features a DVD that illustrates various aspects of Dutch life, including, most notably, a topless woman frolicking in the surf and two men kissing warmly. The message couldn't be more explicit: This is who we are; if you don't accept it, don't come.
Although the DVD doesn't single out any particular group, the intended target of the message is clear. Growing numbers of conservative Muslim immigrants are seen by many Dutch as posing a threat to the Netherlands' liberal consensus and easygoing lifestyle.
The Dutch are not alone. Britain and Germany are toying with the idea of citizenship tests that would examine cultural values of Muslim immigrants. In the wake of Sept. 11, the attacks in London and Madrid, and the Danish cartoon controversy, Europeans are struggling to come to grips with a widening culture gap between themselves and an increasingly alienated Muslim immigrant community.
Woman passes ad on Amsterdam street. The new test for for residency shows a topless woman frolicking in the surf and two men kissing warmly.
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We have a few million surplus illegal Mexicans we could send to them.
well, great strategy, but porn on CD's hasn't exactly kept them out of the US or the rest of Europe, for that matter.
Muslims to Dutch: Yes. We plan to take over! Muslims send Dutch a warning
"Britain and Germany are toying with the idea of citizenship tests that would examine cultural values of Muslim immigrants."
What if the Muslims have their fingers crossed?
I was in Amsterdam several months aqo on business and got a good look at the situation and talked to some of the academics in my field--who actually were friendlier regarding the US than our own academics.
In and out to the airport, the taxi drivers were both Dutch. Both were insane (no, make that crazed) on the subject of Muslims. Neither one had a single practical solution to the issue--in fact, neither had heard of what they might do (I asked.)
But the Dutch are in a terrible jam--all of their own making. Few want to invest in the Netherlands. The rich Dutch make investments outside of the Netherlands. Their young people (such as there are) have no real interest in working. The social programs cost gudzillions of Euro's, but they can't keep them going without massive influxes of resources. No leader can really lead since that means the Dutch will have to come to grips with what they have done--and that they have been trained not to do.
Oh, yes, when you get back from Amsterdam, tell me if you have ever seen a filthier city in its downtown area.
We should be taking lessons . . . !
McVey
I think there is something really arrogant (yet foolish) about the Western leaders of the last 30 years or so. For some reason, they have concluded that it is necessary to throw the precedence and common sense of millenia out the window at the behest of a few interest groups. I don't know if any civilization in history ever went throught the following: massive social welfare programs that sap the initiative, the gutting of its religion, inviting in huge influxes of immigrants hostile to the native culture, the embrace of gayness, and a collective decision not to have kids. Now take all those trends, and compress them in to a forty year period. How many survived? None that I know about.
Can I get a copy of the DVD that just has the first half (the topless women)?
What an idiotic way of achieving this goal. It's more likely to keep out orthodox jews and conservative christians than fundamentalist muslims (many of whom aren't really observant and just use Islam as a justification for violence)
No I can't tell you one either and obviously the Roman Empire is the most striking example of what happens next.
I have no idea whether we are heading for Diocletian or Romulus Augustus. The latter I suspect, the former I fear in several of the likely Demrat nominees.
McVey
Then why are so many muslims such raging rump rangers (pedophile rump rangers at that)?
"I don't know if any civilization in history ever went throught the following: massive social welfare programs that sap the initiative, the gutting of its religion, inviting in huge influxes of immigrants hostile to the native culture, the embrace of gayness, and a collective decision not to have kids. Now take all those trends, and compress them in to a forty year period. How many survived? None that I know about."
You have just made it into my quote-book sir.
"Uh-huh. Lefties trying to get tough by emphasizing their weakness and degeneracy. That'll do it. I'm sure that the ROP suicide squads will be duly impressed and detered."
Well put. Quaking in their chaddors.
"Hopefully, the DVD will impress upon them the reality that they're going to see things they don't like and remind them they have no right to kill people doing things that are forbidden in Islam.
The muslims can abhor Dutch behavior all they want but they have no right to demand that the Dutch change who they are or how they behave to suit their (or any) religious beliefs."
You are living in a dream world. Consider waking up.
"We all know the culture of Muslim's. Just forbid them from settling in our country. Why beat around the Bush."
I agree with your statement, though I find your metaphor a little mixed.
Muslim immigrants would take care of them when they are old alright, they love soft targets.
"I think there is something really arrogant (yet foolish) about the Western leaders of the last 30 years or so. For some reason, they have concluded that it is necessary to throw the precedence and common sense of millenia out the window at the behest of a few interest groups. I don't know if any civilization in history ever went throught the following: massive social welfare programs that sap the initiative, the gutting of its religion, inviting in huge influxes of immigrants hostile to the native culture, the embrace of gayness, and a collective decision not to have kids. Now take all those trends, and compress them in to a forty year period. How many survived? None that I know about."
You are undergoing a good thought process. I would like to suggest you take it one step further: what could cause people to take such an extraordinary course of action? How about massive, long-term infiltration of their society by the Russians?
Initially, as part of an International Communist Revolution. Now, just their gangster-rite KGB offspring continuing the old family business. Sound far-fetched? Tell me something more likely.
Muzzies don't care about what the Netherlands are today, to them it's just another step to the world-wide Caliphate.
There is only ONE windmill in Amsterdan !
Ever think they're testing for the "live and let live" attitude that exemplifies Western culture?
If too many Mussies get in, they will get plenty of that.
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