Posted on 04/09/2006 12:19:55 PM PDT by West Coast Conservative
Ping.
To paraphrase that miserable Jedi Master, "Don't display. There is no display. Just do!"
Hopefully, the initial attack by the US will cut the head off the command and control elements of the Iranian forces. I would hope the US has learned from "shock and awe", and has refined it.
I'm voting for the use of tactical nukes. The world needs to be afraid of us. They need to know that we will use the "Big Fire" without hesitation. Fear, my friends, is the only guarantor of civility in this world.
Regime change or military action are the only options.
Unless there is a *very* orderly and transparent conversion to a *very* western-friendly democracy (which I don't see happening before 2008), then neutralizing Iran's nuclear sites is the only thing we can do.
may i propose somehtign very bold:
Bomb not only IRans nuke facilities but all their oil facilties...yes oil could well go to $100 per barrel, but it wont stay there. There could be a recession, but it wouldnt last as long as the 1979-82 recession.
Iran pumps 4m barrels of oil today, 6m in 1979. Iran needs to sell oil more than consumers need to buy it. bomb irans oil facilites and that will be the end of Iran as a problem for at least 25 years.
The Iranians are not stupid, they've seen Desert Storm and OIF. They will use "standing orders" and will not need a C&C structure. Each hidden missile battery will be manned by the most dedicated fanatics, think Japanese 1945. They will be told "In the event of attack, and disruption of comms, open your standing orders packet." This will say, "MIssle battery 49F: wait until day 33 after the American attack, then attack any shipping seen in the Hormuz Strait." The idea will be to choke of the Hormuz for as long as possible. They don't need an intact C&C structure for this.
Who cares about regime change here? It's too dangerous a country. We have to finish Iraq first. We could introduce democracy in maybe in 2 years or so, but right now we should just bomb this place into a sea of glass. That way we ensure that Iran has suffered a decapitation strike and has also lost their major industry and modes of production! Also, there is a strong democratic student movement in Iran. With the ensuing chaos from a pulverizing bombing campaign, these students could seize control without foreign assistance.
So far, I've been amazed at how weak the strategic analysis is in the MSM. Mainstream media people won't even touch the subject of the grave threat from a nuclear-armed Iran. Are they stupid, uninformed, or deliberately slanting their articles, or are they just trying to be PC to get along with their MSM friends? Except for Bill Buckley, who could be called mainstream, all the analysis of Iran that I've seen in the MSM is extremely weak and one-sided.
OK. So, if they are willing and able to act independantly, then what is the solution? I'd imagine the US military planners have taken all this into consideration. I'm not buying a doom and gloom prognostication here. Sure they could cause some trouble, but they will lose. ME oil may get a bit pricey...but that will only spur on domestic/alernative solutions.
How hidden are these missile batteries? How many are there?
Anyway, if it were my decision, I'd be brutal as hell and strike so hard and so fast, that the populace would be immediately compliant. Again, I vote for tactical nukes. If ya wanna fight- fight to win. A fearful enemy is a defeated enemy. Let's scare the sh*t outta 'em.
Well, uh ... YEAH.
If we attack the Iranian nuclear facilities, our domestic enemies will use our "illegal" attack as the reason to take down the Bush administration. That is what the Iranians are counting on. We need to target the individuals who are our enemies, foreign and domestic, and aerial bombardment isn't the best way to do that.
I quite reading at that sentence.
I don't know about Europe but for sure Isreal will play a supporting role if not an equal one. I would hope that Britian would step up to the plate but the British populace seems be "going wobbly" in these matters.
If it were up to Stephen Harper and most of the Conservative Party as a whole I believe Canada would lend a hand in the area of Naval assistance. But without a majority, it would be impossible. Besides most of the Canadian public live in a dream world.
It it weren't for Blair personally, the Brits would never have gone into Iraq with us. A majority of the British public, their minds clouded with Left-o-Babble multi-culti masochism and carefully cultivated infantilism joined the Euro-nihilists a long time ago.
All a dictator needs is to be anti-American and anti-Israel, and he has instant democratic legitimacy in the eyes of the press.
These people work hard every day to give victory to thugs and to see the US defeated.
I agree. That would have never happened had the Globalists not gotten rid of Margaret Thatcher. Under the Iron Lady Britian wouldn't even have the Euro as their currency. I miss her.
Not much if those in power don't sit on their hands in the meantime.
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