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To: Pukin Dog

DId you copy this or did you actually type all this out?

Your $5 a head for lettuce agrument is crap. Paid labor is only 7% of the retail head of lettuce.

Further, 75% of the paid farm laborers are US citizens. Total farm labor is about 1 million people. We have 12 million illegals. What are the other 10 million doing?


789 posted on 04/09/2006 11:53:46 AM PDT by rcocean (Copyright is theft and loved by Hollywood socialists)
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To: rcocean
I guess your question is whether or not I think for myself? I don't have to parrot what others say, but your point about paid labor makes MY point, but you don't seem to realize that. Maybe you should consider where that other 93% comes from, and consider what would happen if that cost were to double?

The fact is that every other associated cost would double as well, because everything else just got more expensive to support that increase; unless you are among those naive enough to think that those costs will just be eaten by businesses and not passed directly to you.
797 posted on 04/09/2006 11:59:58 AM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache, so if mere words can anger you, it means you can be controlled with little effort.)
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To: rcocean; Pukin Dog
Total farm labor is about 1 million people. We have 12 million illegals. What are the other 10 million doing?

Dog, I believe that in my neck of the woods, a goodly portion of them are cooking and selling meth, along with other drugs, sitting in our prisons at taxpayer expense, and killing and maiming each other in gangs and using free medical resources that, again, are paid by taxpayers.

Your argument makes some sense, but you must factor the cost of medical care and law enforcement in also, along with the cost of educating citizens to speak spanish (so that the illegals won't have to learn english) in order that their children can be taught tax-free in our schools so that they can later get a college education tuition-free from our universities so that they can be brainwashed into good socialists(so they can vote democrat) while my children are unable to afford tuition.

In the border states, woe be to you that are involved in an auto accident with an illegal, because they probably won't carrying insurance and you will be stuck with the medical and repair costs, and the private medical insurance that most employed citizens have just keeps getting more and more expensive to pick up this slack.

I'm sure there are other examples that I can't think of of the top of my head.

I truly believe that if we can do away with some of these freebies to illegals, the savings will trickle down and perhaps we can afford that expensive lettuce with the money we save on school taxes, health insurance, auto insurance, etc.

994 posted on 04/09/2006 3:35:10 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (I LIVE in a border state, DAMMIT! Fine the empolyers and the illegals will go home!)
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To: rcocean

Construction and hospitality. Think about what good jobs construction used to be


1,066 posted on 04/09/2006 6:34:21 PM PDT by sgtyork (May it ever be so, that our government is not afraid to trust the people with arms)
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