[Enchante]

"The London attacks were a modest, simple affair by four seemingly normal men using the internet."

If that's really true that's even more worrisome than tentacles of Al Qaeda plotters, since it indicates how easily jihadist suicide-homicide bombers can spring up anyplace that has MUSLIMS.

Still, I would not be confident that the Brits know all there is to know about the "visits to Pakistan" and other aspects of the lives of these young terrorists. Ultimately, whether or not Al Qaeda and similar groups have planned or ordered any particular attack, that debate is secondary to what really matters: nearly every western nation is STILL, 4.5 years after 9/11, far too lax about laws, policies, and intel related to the jihadist menace. When we still have to waste so much time and energy debating about the so-called 'rights' of 500 jihadists locked up at Guantanamo, rather than tracking down and killing every last jihadist and terror-enabler, then it is obvious that no western nation is really serious enough about combatting this menace.

[james500]

"According to the report, the attacks were largely motivated by concerns over foreign policy...although the four men were also driven by the promise of immortality."


Yeah, that's a tough one to beat

[Jeff Gordon]

The Guardian (UK), much like the New York Times, is famous for self invented leaks and false stories. They, much like the NYT, have an agenda for which they are willing lie, cheat and steal.