[TalBlack]

"The major engineering schools are close to 40% women where they were 10% 20 years ago."


The subject is a bit more layered than most people seem to think. The reason that the major engineering schools are at 40% today may be BECAUSE they were only 10% 20 yrs ago.

Traditionally what has happened is that medical school or officers school didn't have as many woman as the PC types thought they should so standards were then dumbed down to "correct" the lack. This makes the educational experience less valuable to merit-minded males and the slide begins.

Med schools dumbed down admissions in the early 70's. As PC has filtered down the others have followed.

[RHINO369]

"The subject is a bit more layered than most people seem to think. The reason that the major engineering schools are at 40% today may be BECAUSE they were only 10% 20 yrs ago.

Traditionally what has happened is that medical school or officers school didn't have as many woman as the PC types thought they should so standards were then dumbed down to "correct" the lack. This makes the educational experience less valuable to merit-minded males and the slide begins."

Your right about why it happened but wrong about how it happened. They don't dumb down the standard for everyone, just for women. I go to the University of Illinois at Urbana Champaign (the main campus) and we have a very well respected engineering college. We'll the average male engineering student was in the top 5% of their high school graduating class and high (over 30) ACT score. A girl I know in the engineering college, got a scholarship even though she was only the top 15% and 27 ACT. Not only would a male not get in with those scores they wouldn't get a penny in scholarship.

Its affirmative action, even though girls do better in high school, they get an advantage. The reason girls don't go into math and science because on average they aren't interested. As I've gone on in my curriculum the number of girls in my classes shrinks every semester, because many find its not for them and go into another field.