Posted on 04/08/2006 1:23:55 PM PDT by HEMICRASHBOX
SAN SALVADOR, El Salvador (Reuters) - Central American governments could wipe out violent street gangs in two months by treating them like opponents in a war, El Salvador's police chief said on Tuesday. The tattooed street mobs, blamed for a rampage of murders, rapes and robberies and also operating in southern Mexico and in the United States, grew out of Hispanic youth gangs in Los Angeles and have around 100,000 members, police say.
"If this were a war and war concepts were applied, the gangs here would be finished in two months," Salvadoran police chief Rodrigo Avila told a local television station.
The gangs are considered to be the No. 1 security threat in Guatemala, El Salvador and Honduras. Inter-gang warfare often involves beheadings and eye gougings although human rights groups blame some killings on vigilante death squads.
"If this continues at the same rate in the region, the gang members are going to become belligerent groups that are going to endanger stability and national security," Avila said.
Police from the United States, Mexico, Guatemala, Honduras, El Salvador and Dominican Republic are meeting in San Salvador to discuss ways to combat gangs in the region.
Government crackdowns on gang violence, especially in Honduras and El Salvador, pushed gang members to move to other countries, including southern Mexico, which has a porous and easily crossable border.
Many gang members have been thrown in jail and rival gangs often fight and kill each other behind bars. The two best known gangs are the Mara Salvatrucha and the Mara 18.
hmmm.......
Kill them all...should solve the problem, and deter other "disaffected" youths from pursuing the same path.
But you will need to nuke thier enablers too.......?
They already are beligerent "groups" that have endangered stability of many communities and areas. How long are they going to wait, until they do something about them?
I like El Salvador's poilce chief.
Yes, that's what crackdowns are designed to do, until everyone catches on and does the same thing or totally eradicates them.
When I used to take a contingent of Boy Scouts into Mexico years ago on an annual event, a Mexican Scout leader pointed out graffiti that I should watch for and be concerned with when we started seeing it in the U.S.: MS-13's "tag" as they moved into Mexico from Honduras through Chiapas, Mex where a revolution was in full swing. "Revolution" as in terrorism.
I no longer take kids into Mexico, much less myself, family or friends, they can have their miserable country and government. There are some great folks there, friends of mine but they need to bite the bullet and take control of their government, I don't know how they would do that but that's something that only they can address.
Discussions don't equal action. Talk, talk, talk. And why do we need to send our officers down there? If they don't have enough crime to keep them busy on their own turf, have them patrol our own porous border.
Civilian Courts have been ruined by trial lawyers. Slick technicalities and rights for criminals have made a joke of Criminal copurts and they simply cannot deal with these people. Blame it on the Lawyers, thats where the fault lies.
Oh Yes they will come up with great arguments about the rights of criminals , but they have created a world where the criminals can buy their way out of justly deserved punishment if they have money.
What this man is saying is let us shoot these sorry criminal bastards and we will clean it up fast enough.
He is right, but at some point it has to go back or you get a police state. Its hard balance to make.
And if you could imprison them we wouldn't have 100,000 members of MS13 here in the US (which are soon to be citizenship if McVain & The Chappaquidick Killer gets their way).
Part of the system, and so are all of us. Like a radio circuit with capacitors, chokes, resistors: you can't pick out one capacitor and say that's what makes the circuit work.
me too. wipe those punks off the map
The system is too slow to handle this bunch. They are multipyling faster than the system can handle them..
With lawyers getting extensions on trial dates and technicalities and laws that protect the criminal they cannot be handled as fast as they are growing.
I believe what this Police Chief is saying is that we are in a war and taking prisoners isnt working there are just too many of them for the system to handle. Its like trying to arrest the SS. They need to be destroyed. Now whether or not we agree on the rightness of this move or not is another subject, but I believe this is what the Chief is trying to say.
Sounds like the same old thinking that has kept the latino countries from ever becoming anything good in the first place.
They should study the world's greatest success story and try to emulate it's form of government and policing.
This is a case of a flawed form of nation , military crackdown, number 5001 is not the answer.
Civilian Courts have been ruined by trial lawyers."
Central American governments could wipe out violent street gangs and trial lawyers in two months by treating them like opponents in a war
So do it!
Ithink that is what the article says.
There is another problem and that is the question of fairness and the Commons. If some take advantage of the Commons, the Commons fails. The rest will see this as unfairness and wonder why they themselves try to be fair. Many will begin to ignore the law themselves, or take their ignorance of the law to new levels. Either that or take the voluntariness of following the law away. Will we be able to become another Haiti with Tontons Macoute?
Time for the return of the "sparrows."
You ever met a drug-addict? I'd say most are doing a pretty good job of 'nuking' themselves.
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