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To: Steve Van Doorn

Well, he (Jason C) could have written the thread a bit more clearly.

But assuming that his intention is to communicate rather than confuse the issue, I guess I'd ask why, that if he knows something that all of the climate modelers don't (that all of them forgot the Stefan-Boltzman law, which states that the radiation given off by a black body is proportional to the fourth power of its temperature in degrees Kelvin), why he doesn't publish this in a journal? Imagine it! He'd be the most famous man in science - acclaimed for saving us from the mistakes of so many other scientists. Every single one of the modelers forgot this and he points it out to the world. It would be incredible!

I guess my point is that you don't have to completely understand how everything works to make intelligent evaluations. I understand the basic concepts of climate change but would be the first to admit that I don't know how to build a working climate model. But if faced to choose between a near consensus of climate scientists around the world and a guy who says they ALL forgot a basic law of physics, then I'm going to choose the former, especially since temperatures are rising, ice caps are melting, etc. I mean what kind of evidence does one need before you start taking preventive measures?

And, for the NASA study, it makes a big difference what the proportion of a degree celsius is, as that has been about the amount of 20th century warming we've seen. Last I heard from NASA is that one of their higher-ups resigned because of being censored after he publicly said that we really, really should be worried about climate change based on the evidence that they were finding.


23 posted on 04/10/2006 6:50:33 PM PDT by ditto5
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To: ditto5
”why he doesn't publish this in a journal?”

He doesn’t need to. The eco environmental team leader has already dropped out of the project and stated that the figures are wrong. JasonC has shown in great detail what those ‘mistakes’ where before he dropped out of the project.

24 posted on 04/10/2006 7:13:16 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* “I love you guys”)
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