TURN THE KEY - CLICK THE SELF DESTRUCT BUTTON FOR MURTHA
Posted on 04/07/2006 5:55:40 PM PDT by smoothsailing
Good article. Thanks for the ping. United we stand divided we fall.
TURN THE KEY - CLICK THE SELF DESTRUCT BUTTON FOR MURTHA
I'm shocked, I tell ya!
I've heard other people make that point. I can't quite agree. It wasn't American Democrats who flew planes into our buildings, or bombed our warship or barracks in the Middle East. I don't care for their politics, but they're not really our enemies as I see it.
I think the left is wrong to regard Republicans as their real enemy -- we aren't. And I hope we don't make that same mistake about them.
It has always been my belief that the liberals are just playing for the time when they are back in control and will then act with unrestained fury knowing that like the co pilot we will support their actions no matter how much they do to us between now and then.
I know that doesn't make much sense but I feel they were truly hurt that 911 didn't happen on Clinton's watch and have been jealous ever since.
The only problem with that is that The first World Trade Center attack used Al Queda, Iraqi agents, and enough chemical weapons to kill 40,000 New Yorkers and when it didn't happened as planned Bill Clinton ignored it and swept it under the rug, because he didn't want to commit troops against terrorists.
What would you like to know?
Yeah, I've got the same worries that you have about our staying power. But let's not be pessimistic here -- our appetite for this war is still pretty strong now, even after the better part of 5 years.
And I'm sorry to say it, but another terrorist attack on this country -- if it were to happen -- will get us re-energized for a long time to come.
If the bad guys really wanted to sap our strength, the only plan that would really work is to call of terrorist attacks on our people. In short, if they give us what we want, we'll stop fighting them -- otherwise, no deal.
I remember when antiwar freepers (then a majority) rejected this approach when they opposed Clinton's Kosovo war even when our troops were in harm's way. They didn't adopt the philosophy that "we're all in this together." Precisely the opposite.
What neither you, nor the author frankly, seem to entirely grasp is the left does not want us to win this war. They don't want America to win any war. (WWII was an exception, but only AFTER Hitler betrayed his pact with Stalin.) They want America to lose because that will chasten and humble the great power.
Beyond this they don't want any liberal democracy to win any war. (Or to triumph in any trial of ideas either.) They might not always agree with the dictators, terrorists and thugs they thereby enable and support, who after all are only sometimes leftists themselves, but even a right-wing dictatorship or thugocracy creates conditions far more conducive to "revolution". Free, and thereby liberal and prosperous, societies are virtually immune to Utopian, leftist revolution. The Utopia can only be achieved (well, it can never be really achieved, but nevertheless can only be attempted) through totalitarian control of society.
The hard left IS working hard to win the war. They're just working for the other side is all.
The real mystery is why the hard left is enabled, or at least shielded from exposure and criticism, by so many center-left liberals. Why are so many non-extremist liberals WILLFULLY blind to the nefarious motives of the far-left, and often reiterate and amplify their rhetoric and campaigns?
Center-left liberals used to routinely expose and marginalize leftist-extremism, and actively guard against infiltration of their political parties and institutions by leftist-extremists. No, not perfectly and not in all cases, but this was at least the predominant pattern not so long ago; as recently as the early 1960s.
This used to be a point of pride for liberals. But now there is almost nothing more horrifying to a liberal than to suggest the someone to his left might be an extremist. (Yet center-right conservatives are declared extremists with little hesitation.)
I think some of this is attributable to the "red-baiting" taboo that was institutionalized in reaction to "McCarthyism". But that can't be the full explanation. Why was the "red-baiting" taboo, itself a cunningly hypocritical construction of the far-left, and a blatant double standard (marginalizing right-extremists GOOD, even objectively identifying left-extremists BAD) accepted by mainstream center-left liberals in the first place?
This was a huge and historic shift in the behavior of liberals that I don't think has ever been satisfactorily explained.
I'm not quite as emphatic as you are. This country has had what we'd call a left and right ever since it was founded, and the tension between the two has helped us be the best, strongest, and freest nation on earth.
Looking back on history, I don't think the left has been wrong about every issue. Though I do think that today, they've gone too far and we need the pendulum to swing back our direction quite a bit.
And because the first attack was swept under the rug, they never got their moment in the spotlight? That makes sense. It's so juvenile, though. But then, Clinton is juvenile, when he's not criminal. He really does have issues, doesn't he? How in the Sam Hill did he get in the White House. Oops, mind is wandering, must be time for bed : ) Oops. I don't suppose criticizing them helps draw them in. Though, maybe a good slap would get their attention and get them on board.
It does to me.
Perhaps the most infuriating thing(and there are many) about the Democrats, IMHO, is their refusal to be part of the American team, unless they're the coach.
Thanks for your thoughtful comments. While you have a somewhat scolding tone, I actually agree with you.
I was trying to say that the left could help us win this war by playing a helpful role as a "loyal opposition." But instead, the hardcore left has picked a different role -- cheerleader and PR auxiliary for the bad guys.
hear, hear.
what has passed for "the left" in this country publicly, has been the relatively lame "fabian" left. They dwell in the parlors of communism. The left is the welcome mat to communism, period. Just because they've been disguised as liberals doesn't change their nature. leftists hold fundamentally flawed views of human nature that fundamentally flaw their every concept of human government and yes, it is reducible to that.
Are you comparing Kosovo to the global war on terrorism? Am I hearing this right?
I only have one question. What is the most important benefit of Free Republic, from your point of view?
I am amazed at how adept you and some others are with the affects. Thanks.
Granted and agreed, but see my #49. What is to be done when a crucial number, even a majority, of "liberals" themselves are unable to recognize the distinction between liberals and leftists? When they're unwilling to separate themselves from extremism and participate in marginalizing extremists?
This is the huge problem we are currently facing as I see it. If we only had to deal with the hard-left in isolation, then that's not a big problem. Their percentage of the population is in single digits, or very low doubles at best (depending on exactly where you draw the line).
I only have one question. What is the most important benefit of Free Republic, from your point of view?I need a little clarification first please. Which benefactor are you inquiring of? Me, you, or freerepublic admins?
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