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What really happened to Ron Brown
WorldNetDaily ^ | 4/7/06 | Jack Cashill

Posted on 04/07/2006 5:38:53 PM PDT by wagglebee

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To: wagglebee
I cannot understand how these people escape their heinous crimes while at the same destroy republicans on malicious, trumped up lies.

WHY don't the pubs ever bring these people to bear - do they - the traitor party - really own that many judges?

61 posted on 04/07/2006 7:40:17 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...BUT YOU CAN'T FOOL ALL THE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME." Lincoln)
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To: Baynative

Thanks, I was out the door to dinner. I'll check it out a little later as I have a few other things to do also.

I appreciate it.


62 posted on 04/07/2006 7:40:46 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (If you don't want to be lumped in with those who commit violence in your name, take steps to end it.)
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To: joesnuffy
Pretty much agree with everything you have said...except this line.."But then conservatives don't really want to know this truth."

I would instead say...Politicians don't think the American rank and file can handle the truth. Because THAT would shake the foundations of our Republic...and/or cost them their lofty good ol' boy positions.

FWIW

63 posted on 04/07/2006 7:47:26 PM PDT by Osage Orange (The old/liberal/socialist media is the most ruthless and destructive enemy of this country.)
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To: wagglebee
Those pics show the rear half of the plane relatively intact - wonder that NO ONE survived - or did the clean up crew make sure no one did - Bet there were no autopsies on anyone else
64 posted on 04/07/2006 7:47:34 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...BUT YOU CAN'T FOOL ALL THE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME." Lincoln)
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To: wagglebee

bump


65 posted on 04/07/2006 7:47:51 PM PDT by jdhljc169
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To: shield
One on that list is JFK Jr....the day he was to have announced his run for the NY Senate Seat was the very same day his body was pulled out of the Atlantic. Coincidence...not likely.

That is one where JFK Jr probably did it to himself.

I am a pilot, so I know some about learning to fly.

He did his training in a Cessna 182. It is a forgiving airplane that doesn't fly too fast. I did most of my training in a Cessna 172. It is slower than a 182, but handles about the same.

I later bought a Cessna T210. It is a high performance airplane quite similar to the airplane he crashed.

He did not have many hours, and very few in the high performance airplane. He did not have much instrument time and did not have an instrument rating.

I have an instrument rating, so I know what it is like to fly an airplane in the dark with little visibility.

When you are over water as he was, the stars reflect off the water and so you cannot see the horizon. You cannot fly with visual references, and must use the instruments.

He was flying toward land and had few lights to use as reference. He got disoriented, and the airplane rolled upside down. When flying, you cannot tell which side is up without either visual reference or instrument reference.

The airplane went into the water upside down, which would shear off the top of the airplane. When they showed pictures of the airplane in the water, when they found it, it was still upside down.

When I transitioned from a lower performance airplane to a high performance airplane, it was almost like learning to fly again. That is why a pilot cannot fly a high performance airplane without the necessary instruction and endorsement by an instructor certifying that you were able to fly the airplane.

He had not flown the high performance airplane without his instructor before this flight.

He got a later start than he had planned on, and should have canceled the flight. It was beyond his capability.

After more time in the airplane, and more instrument training, he could have made the flight without a problem.

As a comparison, would you get into a high performance sports car and join the freeway traffic when it was foggy, and you had not driven the car before?

If you did, you may not be too successful either.

66 posted on 04/07/2006 7:51:29 PM PDT by Dan(9698)
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To: tang-soo; wagglebee
"8) THe technician who comitted "suicide" died of a shot gun blast which is stated as being highly unlikely used in a suicide.

I believe he died of a .45 to the chest. Not a common round there and not a common place for a suicide to shoot himself.

Also wasn't TSgt. Kelly found alive and died in transport from a slashed femoral artery hours later? Something she would have died of within minutes of the crash?

67 posted on 04/07/2006 7:52:34 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Dig deeper, more ammo.)
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To: All

I remember that day very well. The early morning news was headlined by the Brown crash. By noontime, the headlines were about the arrest of the unabomber. I remember reading reports somewhat later that the FBI had been staking said unabomber for weeks, hoping to catch him sending another package, yet they picked that day to go up to his shack and arrest him.


68 posted on 04/07/2006 7:54:09 PM PDT by RUSTYFISHHOOK (i'd rather eat a pound of these than vote for a democrat)
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To: wagglebee

Every time I see his son on tv (last night in fact, on H and C) I wonder what he thinks of the clintons.


69 posted on 04/07/2006 7:57:36 PM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: buccaneer81

No, it is not Padilla. Those involved in OKC were former Iraqi Republican Guard.


70 posted on 04/07/2006 8:09:15 PM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: PistolPaknMama

bump for later


71 posted on 04/07/2006 8:12:05 PM PDT by PistolPaknMama (Al-Queda can recruit on college campuses but the US military can't! --FReeper airborne)
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To: wagglebee
A quick question, if RB's wound is from a .45 gunshot at close range, then is there any sign of stippling at the entrance, and if not, why not? Also, if it's a .45, should there not also be an exit wound as well (unlike, for example, a .22LR which typically bounces around after entering the skull, or so I have read)?
72 posted on 04/07/2006 8:13:00 PM PDT by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: shield
...explosion from the baggage compartment of JFK Jr.'s plane.

They showed pictures of the airplane taken from the search ROV. You could see that the airplane was upside down, and there was no evidence visible of any explosion.

The baggage compartment is behind the back seats, and is quite thin aluminum. Any explosion there would have made a bulge at least, and more than likely would have blown the airplane in two.

73 posted on 04/07/2006 8:15:25 PM PDT by Dan(9698)
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To: wagglebee

Birr Krintong happen to Lon Blown.


74 posted on 04/07/2006 8:19:22 PM PDT by stboz
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To: SteveH
should there not also be an exit wound as well

thru his toes maybe? - The hole was in the TOP of his head - could travel a long way before finding and exit opportunity - someone wanting to hide a bullet wound would avoid an obvious exit wound - and the wound already in the top of his head made it neatly possible

75 posted on 04/07/2006 8:20:02 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...BUT YOU CAN'T FOOL ALL THE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME." Lincoln)
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To: wagglebee; All

This is absolutely insane, and makes me automatically start to view Cashill's work on the TWA Flight 800 - which I previously believed in - as highly suspect.

Brown's plane crashed because the AF pilots, flying an obsolete version of a civilian Boeing 737, failed to properly coordinate their landing based on a seldom used obsolete beacon instead of the up-to-date system they were used to. In a hellacious thunderstorm when visibility was ZERO. Flying into an airport located in a narrow valley FLANKED by TWO MOUNTAIN RANGES!!

Unfortunately, just a tiny error in their course, multiplied over the course of miles, meant that they hit a mountain instead of gliding down to the airport.

This kind of thing has happened uncounted times - especially in Third World countries during a blinding thunderstorm. Remember the Army electronic surveillance plane that did the exact same thing in Columbia a few years ago?

Secondly, THERE WERE NO MEMBERS OF THE ENRON CO. ON BROWN'S FLIGHT!! Check the records. Or just ask me (more below).

Thirdly, Tudjman's cancer was not diagnosed until 1997.

Other than that, its a GREAT article isn't it?

Gee, Al, you say. How do you know so much about this? Well...one reason is...I was there. I was with Brown that entire morning at Tuzla. I briefed him on the local parties he would be seeing, while we were flying in the UH-60 on the way to the various meetings he attended that morning. I have a photo of him trying to figure out how to buckle his safety belts (they're not your standard airline lap belt when you are in a Blackhawk). I was with his party. I met them all. They all personally thanked me profusely for everything that I did to facilitate their meetings that morning, saying it had been the highlight of their trip. I can still see many of their faces - and I have photos I snapped of many of them, smiling, chatting, oblivious to the cruel twist of fate that awaited them but two-three hours later.

And what happened that afternoon after we saw them off - in a driving rain and a ceiling that was only about 250 feet - was the worst tragedy I have personally seen in my life. The weather in Dubrovnik was 10 times worse by the time they got there.

And don't tell me the weather was not that bad because - I WAS THERE AND YOU WEREN'T!!! I was in the US Army Command Center in Tuzla, and had access to all of the weather and other info in real time as this nightmare unfolded; I was next to and helping the CG that entire first, unreal, terrible night.

OK. The 'tinfoil hat brigade' can now have at me. Do your worst....


76 posted on 04/07/2006 8:27:30 PM PDT by Al Simmons (Four-time Bush Voter 1994-2004!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: wagglebee
Thank you for posting the photo of Elian, to me that was a true terrorist act.

May they rot in hell.

For the torture of an innocent child.
77 posted on 04/07/2006 8:45:27 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny (TODAY WOULD BE A GOOD DAY FOR LOTS OF HEAVY PRAYING, THE WORLD NEEDS YOUR PRAYERS.)
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To: wagglebee

No doubt in mine either. He had threated Clinton - to his face - telling him that if he went down, Clinton was going with him.

And .. since Clinton believed it was okay to kill people who hurt you .. I would presume Clinton felt threatened enough to make it happen.


78 posted on 04/07/2006 8:53:07 PM PDT by CyberAnt (Democrats/Old Media: "controversy, crap and confusion" -- Amen!)
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To: wagglebee

The real NDB beacon would also be transmitting a Morse-code version of its call letters, while the fake beacon described by Cahill probably would not. Did the crew check the Morse-code audio as part of their regular routine? The military is usually pretty rigorous on things like that, plus the crew would probably also be very motivated to do that in mountainous terrain.


79 posted on 04/07/2006 8:54:16 PM PDT by expatpat
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To: wagglebee
The "lucky" ones lose everything and go to prison.

Some, like their partner who was a banker, go to prison and still get killed.

80 posted on 04/07/2006 8:58:19 PM PDT by expatpat
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