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'Gospel of Judas' Called An Authentic Fabrication
The New York Sun ^ | April 7, 2006 | BRUCE CHILTON

Posted on 04/07/2006 6:38:55 AM PDT by presidio9

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To: Right Wing Professor; Dog Gone
"Do you claim the pastoral epistles date to the first century?"

You might be interested in the following about the origins of the "Gospels" and writings attributed to Paul. The "they" in the quote below refers to the Ascetics (who many say were also essentially the Essenes).

Eusebius wrote, in his Ecclesiastical History (History of the Christian Church), Book II, CHAPTER XVII of Philo's Account of the Ascetics of Egypt
http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/2501.htm

"But it is highly probable that the works of the ancients, which he says they had, were the Gospels and the writings of the apostles, and probably some expositions of the ancient prophets, such as are contained in the Epistle to the Hebrews, and in many others of Paul's Epistles."
141 posted on 04/07/2006 6:33:41 PM PDT by familyop ("The Romans and their Empire were but a bauble in comparison to the Jews." --President John Adams)
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To: presidio9; 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; afraidfortherepublic; Alas; al_c; american colleen; ...


142 posted on 04/07/2006 8:08:34 PM PDT by Coleus (What were Ted Kennedy, his son & nephew doing on Good Friday, 1991? Getting drunk and raping women)
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To: presidio9
This amounts to saying that "The Gospel of Judas" is an authentic fabrication produced by a group of Gnostics in Egypt.

This is about what my reaction was to the first mention of this "authentic" document. That it may be authentically old (though centuries later than the time of the apostles) but that there were heretics back then, even in the time of Jesus, just as there are heretics now.

So, this "gospel" was written by some early best-selling novelist like the guy who wrote The DaVinci Code.

143 posted on 04/08/2006 8:29:56 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
I just dug up a piece of papyrus in my backyard. It looks really old. I think it says I'm related to Queen Victoria.
Or maybe it says Queen Latifah. It's smudged.

LOL.

144 posted on 04/08/2006 8:51:24 AM PDT by ears_to_hear ("I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see. ")
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To: presidio9; Coleus

This is worse than that whole Christ-was-walking-on-ice-on-the-Sea-of-Galilee thing!!


145 posted on 04/08/2006 9:08:56 AM PDT by Irish_Thatcherite (~A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!~| IRA supporters on FR are trolls, end of story!)
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To: 7evens
I thought the program interesting.

How could the gospel aspect of Jesus have originated and proliferated without Judas?

And how could the United States have been founded without Christianity?

This from my Jewish perspective.

146 posted on 04/09/2006 7:34:22 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: presidio9
The release says the document was "copied down in Coptic probably around A.D. 300,"

I'm so sick of this crap.

147 posted on 04/10/2006 8:29:23 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: karnage
Ms. Rice has undergone a profound conversion experience, returning to the Catholic faith of her youth.

Got link?

148 posted on 04/10/2006 8:40:21 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: Aquinasfan

www.annerice.com


149 posted on 04/10/2006 9:27:19 AM PDT by karnage
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To: sinkspur
One of the participants had to point out to her that "Katie, the DaVinci Codes are a work of fiction."

She is a worthy successor to Dan Rather.

150 posted on 04/10/2006 10:09:20 AM PDT by my_pointy_head_is_sharp (Soon Israel will be just a memory.)
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To: presidio9
Judas Priest Hair Band BUMP!


151 posted on 04/10/2006 10:15:42 AM PDT by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything.")
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Note: this topic was posted 04/07/2006. Thanks presidio9.

152 posted on 03/19/2015 10:37:27 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW!)
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