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No Amnesty For Republicans (Don Feder To GOP: We are Are Conservatives, Hear Us Roar Alert)
Frontpagemag.com ^ | 04/07/06 | Don Feder

Posted on 04/07/2006 3:10:22 AM PDT by goldstategop

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To: DH
Compromise. That's the word that has done us in. True leaders never compromise. If you are strong, you win. If you are weak, you lose.

The problem with that logic is that the status quo is unacceptable. If our failure to compromise at all means that no bill gets passed, that's a homerun for the liberals. They want us to refuse to compromise because it preserves a status quo that benefits them.

"True leaders never compromise" is a ridiculous mantra. Go back to 2001. Dubya wanted a $1.5T tax cut, but the Dems and RINO's didn't want anything over $1.1T. So he compromised and settled for the $1.3T. But according to you, he should have "refused to compromise", even if that meant no tax cut at all. Evidently, in your book, no tax cut is better than a $1.3T tax cut.

61 posted on 04/07/2006 11:00:29 AM PDT by XJarhead
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To: America's Resolve

If you don't think there is a difference between the two parties, then you must not think there is a difference between their approaches to national defense and it won't matter to you if Carl Levin, Richard Durbin, Ted Kennedy and the like are overseeing our military, intelligence, and national security law enforcement.


62 posted on 04/07/2006 11:03:42 AM PDT by ekwd (Murphy's Law Has Not Been Repealed)
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To: goldstategop

I think it's not necessarily that the republicans are going for the illegal vote, but that every time the population of the US ratchets up another notch, our representation is watered down a little more. It may be BECAUSE of the illegals that they consider each voter to be of such little consequence that they can successfully ignore the popular will. More people means less representation for us, more power for Congress.


63 posted on 04/07/2006 11:11:25 AM PDT by Flavius Josephus (War today is always cheaper than war tomorrow.)
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To: David Isaac
America may be history.

If the USA goes belly up it won't be the end of the world. Maybe it would be for the best. The government can't be stopped now, it's too big. It needs to collapse just like the Soviet Union did, and then maybe we can rebuild from the ashes. At the least maybe we can put together a few truly sovereign conservative States out of the wreckage.

64 posted on 04/07/2006 11:15:31 AM PDT by Flavius Josephus (War today is always cheaper than war tomorrow.)
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To: XJarhead

"Go back to 2001. Dubya wanted a $1.5T tax cut, but the Dems and RINO's didn't want anything over $1.1T..."

Let's see if I got this right. Dubya is a Republican. RINOs are Republicans. Democrats are Democrats. I believe that's correct.

Now, back to a strong leader concept. Without fail, the Democrats walk in "lock step" on any matter their leader requests it. Any time they are in power they get their way 100%...no compromise.

Dubya and his Republicans could not stick together even if you made them jump into a pool of super glue. What's the difference? Weak leader who compromises and never uses a veto?


65 posted on 04/07/2006 11:16:44 AM PDT by DH (The government writes no bill that does not line the pockets of special interests.)
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To: Old_Mil
Fascism exalts the nation, state, or race as superior to the individuals, institutions, or groups composing it.
I didn't originate the term, but if you add religion to nation, state, or race, it would seem to me to fit. I take it that you believe that there is no such thing as a "moderate" Muslim.
66 posted on 04/07/2006 11:20:55 AM PDT by ekwd (Murphy's Law Has Not Been Repealed)
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To: America's Resolve

Ditto


67 posted on 04/07/2006 11:21:12 AM PDT by capecodconservative
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To: DH
Dubya and his Republicans could not stick together even if you made them jump into a pool of super glue. What's the difference?

RINO's who are not conservatives and will not vote that way. If there were 55 conservative votes in the Senate, you'd have a point. There aren't.

Weak leader who compromises and never uses a veto?

So let me get this straight. Bush should have been a "strong leader", by refusing to compromise on the $1.5T. And he should have vetoed the $1.3M because it wasn't $1.5M. By the Senate passing a $1.3T tax cut, the Dems and RINO's can legitimately claim they passed a large tax cut bill. Then they point to Bush's veto as depriving the American people of that tax cut.

So not only do we not get a tax cut, but we've strengthened those who fought for the smallest cut possible. Wonderful.

68 posted on 04/07/2006 11:25:36 AM PDT by XJarhead
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To: ekwd

I posted this earlier today, but I'll try again. George Bush signed McCain-Feingold [in violation of the 1st Amendment]; he pushed for and signed the Prescription Drug bill,which will bankrupt the country; he's done nothing about illegal immigration; and he's allowed the size of reach of government to grow.

We thought we elected a conservative.

What is the real difference between the above and what any Democrat would have done in the last 6 years?


69 posted on 04/07/2006 11:28:00 AM PDT by capecodconservative
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To: goldstategop
Republicans continue to maddeningly behave like the minority party. They continue to kowtow to Kennedy et al like abused stepchildren!

Will someone tell me why our elected representatives are swayed more by the actions and opinions of those who did not and cannot vote them into office than the desires of those they "represent" and the laws they have sworn to uphold and defend, "so help you God"?

I'm absolutely sick of our party's spineless self-subjugation to the screeching enemies of our nation, both citizen and non-citizen alike.

70 posted on 04/07/2006 11:37:18 AM PDT by TChris ("Wake up, America. This is serious." - Ben Stein)
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To: capecodconservative
Do the tax cuts, judicial appointments, and aggressive pursuit of the war not count?
71 posted on 04/07/2006 11:43:47 AM PDT by ekwd (Murphy's Law Has Not Been Repealed)
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To: XJarhead
Democrats are united by one central principle- more government. Republicans have no such unifying principle, at least since the end of the Cold War. By some people's definition, Ronald Reagan, with his "big tent" philosophy would not have been a real Republican.
72 posted on 04/07/2006 11:48:32 AM PDT by ekwd (Murphy's Law Has Not Been Repealed)
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To: ekwd
We always accuse liberals of living this ivory towered existence that doesn't face reality. I'm starting to think a whole lot of conservatives who refuse to recognize political realities aren't any better on that score.

The goal has to be to get the best deal we can as long as it is better than the status quo. Even if its not the perfect deal.

73 posted on 04/07/2006 11:51:29 AM PDT by XJarhead
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To: ekwd

The tax cuts would count if I didn't believe we're merely awaiting a huge tax increase down the road when the bills come due. The key, I think, is to downsize government so that the reason for any tax increases are lacking.

I do give the president provisional credit for Justices Roberts and Alito; I think the jury is still out until we have a major case, but at least I'm hopeful on this issue.

Aggressive pursuit of the war? Again, I say two in the turban for Abdul and Co., but no nation-building. If Iraqis, Afghans etc. want a democracy let them fight for it. We did.


74 posted on 04/07/2006 11:53:22 AM PDT by capecodconservative
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To: XJarhead
Yes sir.
BTW, I am retired from the Air Force, but two grandsons of my closest living relative are in the Marines. I am very afraid that we are on the verge of wasting their sacrifices.
75 posted on 04/07/2006 11:54:23 AM PDT by ekwd (Murphy's Law Has Not Been Repealed)
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To: backhoe

There are definitely parallels.


76 posted on 04/07/2006 11:56:56 AM PDT by TAdams8591
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To: backhoe

There are definitely parallels.


77 posted on 04/07/2006 11:56:58 AM PDT by TAdams8591
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To: capecodconservative
I'm a supply sider and believe the tax cuts have increased revenues. As far as the war goes, if we cut and run as we did in Vietnam, we can expect the same results- hostile regimes.
78 posted on 04/07/2006 11:58:29 AM PDT by ekwd (Murphy's Law Has Not Been Repealed)
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To: goldstategop; Travis McGee
If Republicans lose either or both Houses of Congress this year,

Didn't most of the Republicans in the House vote for border security only? They are all up for reelection this year. Only a few Republican Senators are, but I seem to read that Republicans are for amnesty. Doesn't the House count at all?

79 posted on 04/07/2006 12:01:50 PM PDT by Freee-dame
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To: George_Bailey; America's Resolve
Constitution party for me. Screw the republicrats.

There's no way I'll ever vote Republican again no matter what (even if it means Hillary gets elected. I'm no longer under the delusion that I'd be better off with a nominal Republican than with Hillary).

Uh, if you're not happy with RINO Republicans, then oppose them in the primary and vote for more conservatives ones. Why would you penalize truly conservative Republican voices in Congress by never voting for any other Republican?

80 posted on 04/07/2006 12:02:54 PM PDT by XJarhead
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