To: SUSSA
I believe that immigrants are not criminals and that those who have come here should have the opportunity to come out of the shadows for many reasons.
1. this will open and help the party gain many more members
2. what makes this country great is how we treat our immigrants
3. lets solve this now
4. God loves the immigrant and will judge us how we treat strangers
24 posted on
04/06/2006 10:26:43 PM PDT by
Cato1
To: Cato1
Sure... if they are legal immigrants who desire to become U.S citizens and acculturate as Americans and integrate into the American mainstream... they ought to be welcomed. I am a first generation legal immigrant and U.S citizen myself. This isn't controversial.
What Americans do oppose is granting the privilege of U.S citizens and related public benefits to people who have broken our country's laws, who demonstrate no loyalty towards it and who have no desire to become Americans in language, culture and habits. So when we hear Congress ponder giving illegal aliens special treatment, we're mad precisely because we're giving people who don't deserve to be citizens that status for free. And that my friends, goes by another name: socialism. Make no mistake, an amnesty for lawbreakes is just another form of government entitlement.
(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")
26 posted on
04/06/2006 10:33:58 PM PDT by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
To: Cato1
I believe that immigrants are not criminals
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What part of "ILLEGAL" do you not understand? NAMBLA believes child molesters are not criminals. What you and they believe does not change the facts.
29 posted on
04/06/2006 10:40:09 PM PDT by
SUSSA
To: Cato1
"I believe that immigrants are not criminals and that those who have come here should have the opportunity to come out of the shadows for many reasons.
1. this will open and help the party gain many more members
2. what makes this country great is how we treat our immigrants
3. lets solve this now
4. God loves the immigrant and will judge us how we treat strangers
"
Are you really that dense or is that sarcasm???
Point 1: They will vote more for democrats than republicans. So if the GOP gains members, the DNC gains more. That makes as much sense as GM's business plan: Lose money on every car, but make it up on voume!
Point 2: We treat our legal immigrants fine. But they are treated worse than our illegal immigrants. That needs to change.
Point 3: This won't solve a damn thing. All it will do is reward lawlessness. Combined with no enforcement and no border security, all that will happen is that the amensty elligible will get citizenship (and welfare benefits) and the other illegals will stay here. And more will come hoping for another amnesty.
Point 4: God loves people who use their brains. So he's probably having doubts about you right about now.
To: Cato1
Keeping fighting the fight. Depending on the details of this bill in the Senate it sounds something like I can live with. Your right on treating its absurd to treat these people in the same class of criminals like Child molesters. This is has always been treated as a civil violation basically with a fine. I too believe this needs to be solved now. Hopefully a few in the House want listen to the mad herd and a bill will get through. If it doesn't the problem will just get worse I ma afraid
To: Cato1
Are you aware most immigrant groups, with the exception of Cubans, vote over whelming Democrat?
Are you aware that support for abortion is one of the Sacraments for the Democrat Party.
I'm hardly one to claim to speak for Mind of God, but I think he loves his precious infants more.
43 posted on
04/06/2006 11:06:27 PM PDT by
investigateworld
(Abortion stops a beating heart)
To: Cato1
They became criminals the instant they crossed the border without legal entry papers. period.
To: Cato1
"I believe that immigrants are not criminals"
What part of illegal do you not understand?
Do you think everyone in the US can be as flaky as yourself and just "believe" in what ever law they chose to?
Hmmm, I don't "believe" bank robbers are really criminals....maybe I'll go make an undocumented withdrawal tomorrow.
I don't "believe" that non payment of my fair share of taxes is a criminal activity.....therefore I'll go out and hire some illegals.
I "believe" I'll be a scumbag employer and hire illegals so I can compete unfairly against my competition who are suckers and abide by the laws and run legitimate businesses.
or... how about this... I don't "believe" my company should abide by the strict laws our country has set up for manufacturing medical devices... I "believe" I'll produce crappy inferior products and dump them on the unwitting public.
See how silly your position really is?
Just because you don't "believe" a law is a law... thankfully will not make it disappear. It is you who are making the mistake.
69 posted on
04/07/2006 4:43:52 AM PDT by
taxed2death
(A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
To: Cato1
"1. this will open and help the party gain many more members" - You're a fool if you truly believe that.
"2. what makes this country great is how we treat our immigrants" - We treat legal immigrants late, it's alien invader trash that we hate. Let's not attempt to muddy the water by grouping the two together.
"3. lets solve this now" - Not at the expense of our sovereignty and rewarding lawbreakers.
"4. God loves the immigrant and will judge us how we treat strangers" - Again, legal immigrants are far different from illegal trash.
70 posted on
04/07/2006 5:16:14 AM PDT by
Bikers4Bush
(Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
To: Cato1
I believe that immigrants are not criminalsLegal immigrants are not. Illegal immigrants are.
And the mindset of persons who come here despite our immigration laws also leads to a mindset where they do not feel obliged to obey other laws of ours they find inconvenient. Do you think that is going to change by making them legal?
71 posted on
04/07/2006 6:23:40 AM PDT by
dirtboy
(Tagline under contruction. Fines doubled.)
To: Cato1
Did god love people like Atta as well?
73 posted on
04/07/2006 6:34:15 AM PDT by
junta
(It's Jihad stupid! It's the borders stupid! "From the halls of Montezuma...")
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