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To: Porterville
It’s also equally important to understand that there is only one path for which an alien can come under the jurisdiction of the United States for purposes of citizenship: Through the process of naturalization that, among other things, requires a person to renounce all allegiance to their country of origin. The Fourteenth Amendment framers did not recognize as a matter of law that an alien giving birth to a child within the limits United States, is by itself, an act of naturalization on the part of the mother. This is because the naturalization of aliens is a process of rules set forth in naturalization laws, and not something an individual can accomplish through their own acts outside of these rules of law.

The principle behind birthright is the same as it was before and after the adoption of the 14th amendment: Only a citizen can make a citizen through the process of childbirth. Any other avenue to citizenship requires an act of naturalization under naturalization laws or perhaps, by treaty.

Who wants to try and deny that?
8 posted on 04/06/2006 8:11:57 PM PDT by AZRepublican ("The degree in which a measure is necessary can never be a test of the legal right to adopt it.")
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To: AZRepublican

Who wants to try and deny that?
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No one in their right mind. The "anchor baby" concept is sick, twisted, and totally unfair to REAL American citizens. This whole issue shows itself as totally unfair to real citizens -- thanks to Washington, DC, our dysfunctional politically-driven ex-government.


10 posted on 04/06/2006 8:15:54 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: AZRepublican
The principle behind birthright is the same as it was before and after the adoption of the 14th amendment: Only a citizen can make a citizen through the process of childbirth. Any other avenue to citizenship requires an act of naturalization under naturalization laws or perhaps, by treaty.

Who wants to try and deny that?

About a hundred years of tradition that says otherwise and a whole lot of citizens who were born while their parents weren't citizens.

In fact, my father's parents entered the country legally and eventually obtained citizenship, but I'm not sure they had at the time he was born. If they weren't, does that mean my father is not a citizen?

18 posted on 04/06/2006 8:30:44 PM PDT by Celtjew Libertarian
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