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BBC: Cardinal urges 'fair' migrant law ~ Cardinal Roger Mahony of Los Angeles,
BBC ^ | Thursday, 6 April 2006, 10:58 GMT 11:58 UK | Duncan Kennedy BBC News, Los Angeles

Posted on 04/06/2006 8:24:38 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

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To: conservative blonde
A person can be living in sin and call him/herself anything they want but they are not a Catholic unless they live up to the beliefs and rules of the Catholic Church.

You are incorrect. Catholics who sin are still Catholics. Excommunication is a canonical penalty and the occasions for its imposition are spelled out clearly in the Code of Canon Law.

A person who sins, even who commits a mortal sin, is not automatically excommunicated. They are sinners, and can be reconciled to the Church through the Sacrament of Reconciliation.

61 posted on 04/06/2006 10:04:51 PM PDT by sinkspur (Things are about to happen that will answer all your questions and solve all your problems.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Fifth Columnist.


62 posted on 04/06/2006 10:05:11 PM PDT by Clemenza (I Just Wasn't Made for These Times)
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To: Robertsll
"borderless", not "boarderless"

Sorry for the typo. I caught it in MS Word, but did not copy it back here.

63 posted on 04/06/2006 10:18:49 PM PDT by Robertsll
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I stand by what I wrote. I may have written it badly. I did not mean to imply that sinners were not longer Catholics. I said that people who refuse to live by the "morals and rules" of the Catholic Church are no longer Catholic. A person not lawfully married cannot receive Holy Communion in the Catholic Church. They may think they are still Catholic and call themselves by that name but they are not Catholic.


64 posted on 04/07/2006 1:12:28 PM PDT by conservative blonde (Conservative Blonde)
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To: conservative blonde
I said that people who refuse to live by the "morals and rules" of the Catholic Church are no longer Catholic. A person not lawfully married cannot receive Holy Communion in the Catholic Church. They may think they are still Catholic and call themselves by that name but they are not Catholic.

You can believe whatever you want, but, theologically, you are simply incorrect. Even Benedict XVI has explicitly stated that those who find themselves married outside the Church are still imperfectly united to the Church.

65 posted on 04/07/2006 1:25:35 PM PDT by sinkspur (Things are about to happen that will answer all your questions and solve all your problems.)
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What do the words "imperfectly united" suggest to you? The new pope is very much more interested in getting along with everyone than I personally would like.


66 posted on 04/07/2006 4:11:55 PM PDT by conservative blonde (Conservative Blonde)
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The new pope is very much more interested in getting along with everyone than I personally would like.

Perhaps a church that doesn't reach out to sinners might be more to your liking.

67 posted on 04/07/2006 4:20:25 PM PDT by sinkspur (Things are about to happen that will answer all your questions and solve all your problems.)
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