[steve-b]

True enough, but ask yourself if the future of the Jew would have unfolded differently has they moderated their religion as did Christianity at about the same time frame. Would not the Holocaust be missing from the historical record?

WTF? The notion that the occurrence of the Holocaust is dependent on what Jews did or did not do is ahistorical (and, frankly, offensive).

[Cold Heat]

I fully understand how you would see it that way, but the Nazis were largely Christian, and all of this crap is religious based hatreds being played out. The mistake is to believe that only one, two of the major monotheistic religions are at fault. None of them have a pass or clean hands.

Truth should not be offensive, but to anyone belonging to a Dogma it often is. The first thing that happens is that the debate is silenced by screams of offense, declarations of anger and often resulting actions, all in the name of God..

This is why it continues and probably why it will never stop, at least for a few hundred years. It must be quite a disappointment to God. But it is what it is.

[Cold Heat]

After rereading your reply I discovered that I may have missed something in my reply.

I want to make it clear that I don't blame the Jews for the Holocaust. I blame the relationship between Christians and Jews and that had this relationship been better, the Holocaust may not have occurred.

As evidence I suggest the fact that no Pope had ever visited a Synagogue before John Paul is telling.

This is what I was getting at.