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The PC Inquisition Comes TO Baylor University (You Can't Disagree With The Left In Texas Alert)
Frontpagemag.com ^ | 04/06/06 | Steven Plaut

Posted on 04/06/2006 1:44:19 AM PDT by goldstategop

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At Baylor University in Texas, its verboten to disagree with the Left about Intelligent Design theory. But its completely within bounds to dismiss the Holocaust as historical truth and to delegitimize Israel. The PC Inquistion has a far reach in this country, extending even to Baptist-affliated schools in a Red State like Texas. As matters stand, if you're suspected of even the tiniest deviation from Leftist orthodoxy forget about a teaching career in American higher education. In Texas, as elsewhere across the country, academic freedom is reserved only for the Left.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

1 posted on 04/06/2006 1:44:29 AM PDT by goldstategop
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To: goldstategop

Football school? When was the last time Baylor had a decent team?


2 posted on 04/06/2006 1:54:50 AM PDT by saganite (The poster formerly known as Arkie 2)
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To: saganite

That's to distract you from the the Intelligent Design claims.


3 posted on 04/06/2006 2:04:22 AM PDT by Hong Kong Expat
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To: Hong Kong Expat

LOL! I wasn't distracted. It's good to see intelligent design take another beating.


4 posted on 04/06/2006 2:07:04 AM PDT by saganite (The poster formerly known as Arkie 2)
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To: goldstategop
If your faith belief is that triangles have 666 degrees, should you get tenure as a math professor? NO

If your faith belief is that pixies hold up airplanes, should you get tenure in aeronautic engineering? NO

If your faith belief is that tuberculosis is caused not by a bacillus, but by a satan-inspired imp, should you get tenure in the medical school? NO

If your faith belief is that earth is 4000 years old, should you get tenure in geology? NO

A faith belief cannot substitute for real knowledge. A faith belief in "ID" is like unto the above. Pixies did it or god did it---neither is science. Nobody has a right to tenure--it has to be earned. Wackos unable to understand magnetism, calculus, germ theory of disease, evolution need not apply.

5 posted on 04/06/2006 3:43:59 AM PDT by thomaswest (Just curious)
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To: goldstategop
The ACLU and similar outfits consider "intelligent design" to be the backdoor introduction of religious indoctrination into the schoolhouse.

First it'll be "intelligent design", next thing you know they'll forbid sphagetti in the dining hall because it would offend the Flying Sphagetti Monster (blessed be his noodly appendages).

6 posted on 04/06/2006 3:45:19 AM PDT by cryptical (Wretched excess is just barely enough.)
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To: goldstategop; N8VTXNinWV
Good Lord. Lilley has gone out of his way to shove a thumb in Baylor supporters' eyes. I wasn't aware of the “Center of American and Jewish Studies" and his anti-Semetic lunacy. Dr. Sloan's legacy is being dismantled as quickly as they can do it. He is a good man, and they were fools to kick him out.

Baylor ping, Louie

7 posted on 04/06/2006 3:54:11 AM PDT by shezza (God bless our military heroes)
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To: thomaswest
Please explain the granting of un-credentialed nutball Ellis, if you would.

Keep in mind that while your comments may be true at, say, UCBerkeley, Baylor is a Christian university, and a Baptist one at that. Dr. Sloan's choices, and Dr. Beckwith's teaching, are consistent with the Baptist theology. Should their religion professors also be fired because non-Christian, non-Baptists do not believe in the Almighty? (I notice your caps work for everything but "god," which shows me your bias at the outset.)

Caveat: I'm a Christian, a Baptist, and a Baylor graduate.

8 posted on 04/06/2006 4:07:58 AM PDT by shezza (God bless our military heroes)
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Oops, meant to say, "Please explain the granting of tenure to un-credentialed nutball Ellis...."
9 posted on 04/06/2006 4:09:26 AM PDT by shezza (God bless our military heroes)
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Beckwith's sin seems to be his belief in Christianity and his defense of the teaching of "intelligent design,"

"Seems" to be? He's not sure? The author "seems" awfully tentative and speculative about the actual reasons for Beckworth's denial of tenure, as if he's stating his presumption but doesn't actually have specific evidence that that was indeed the reason.

If so, his entire long rant is way out of line, if indeed it's based on what he *thinks* the reason *might* be for Beckworth's failure to be awarded tenure. And I don't see anything else in this editorial which clarifies the matter.

In any case, though, any educator who puts for a "defense of the teaching of 'intelligent design'", if that's what Beckworth actually did, does indeed raise red flags about his suitability, because at this point 'intelligent design' is an empty shell as devoid of real research findings as, say, astrology. There's nothing *to* actually teach on the subject, despite hundreds of years of searching for positive results on that topic. I've challenged countless "ID fans" to describe what an "ID curriculum" would actually consists of (and I'm not the only one), and no one's managed to step up to the plate yet.

And no, posing "questions" about evolutionary biology is not "teaching ID", any more than questioning chemistry is "teaching alchemy".

10 posted on 04/06/2006 4:10:53 AM PDT by Ichneumon (Ignorance is curable, but the afflicted has to want to be cured.)
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To: saganite

They had a decent season this past year...but hardly know as a power football program...there basketball team got noterioty because of a murder by a player


11 posted on 04/06/2006 4:11:45 AM PDT by conservativehusker (GO BIG RED!!!!)
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Baylor is a Christian university, and a Baptist one at that. Dr. Sloan's choices, and Dr. Beckwith's teaching, are consistent with the Baptist theology.

Teachings consistent with Baptist theology are fine, of course. Teaching something *as* science when it isn't, however, is not, nor is bearing false witness in that matter "consistent with the Baptist theology".

Should their religion professors also be fired because non-Christian, non-Baptists do not believe in the Almighty?

No, nor is that actually the case with Beckwith.

12 posted on 04/06/2006 4:13:34 AM PDT by Ichneumon (Ignorance is curable, but the afflicted has to want to be cured.)
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"If your faith belief is that pixies hold up airplanes, should you get tenure in aeronautic engineering? NO"

And he beleives this? Do you have a source?

"Wackos unable to understand magnetism, calculus, germ theory of disease, evolution need not apply."

So you're saying he an ignorant slug who can't add?

When I was in grade school and in science class I couldn't understand how someone could be jailed for saying the earth wasnt the center of the universe. It was just beyond me.

I still don't understand. The radical left controls our schools. If you lie about your minority status to get hired and plagerize many of your publications you can stay tenured as long as you are a leftie (Churchhill). If you question the farce that evolution is you cannot despite any other credentials.

Darwin was a rebel who was running away from his Dad. he spent 30 days writing a book which the left uses as their Bible. Lefties worship Darwin as a god. Science is worshipped as a religion.

And thats fine if it makes you happy, but don't knock my God. And don't persecute me for my beliefs.


13 posted on 04/06/2006 4:31:30 AM PDT by driftdiver
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To: Ichneumon

Please. And Evolution has real basis. We've seen limited mutations, not anything on the scale that would bring us from single celled life to something as complex as human beings within the span that "geology" says we have. Even some proponents of evolution get this and they're trying to figure out a way. When you get most of your "evolution" pieces in place and can show us the development all they way up through the chain, then maybe you can say that's the only "scientific" explanation. Until then, give us a break. How many times has science been wrong before? Law of entropy is still in effect. You can't go from the simple to the complex without something - or someone- playing with it.


14 posted on 04/06/2006 5:21:22 AM PDT by jdluntjr
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To: shezza
Pfft! They're trying to get Baylor in the news so the President won't put his library there. Mark my words!(this is the Dallas Morning News, afterall.)

OH! and Mr. Reporter...Baylor has GREAT basketball, tennis, baseball, softball, golf, etc. which have received more accolades than the football team.

15 posted on 04/06/2006 5:32:14 AM PDT by N8VTXNinWV
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To: goldstategop
indeed to build Christian academic excellence and achieve for Baylor true research university status.

Kinda hard to do when your professors are pushing pseudo-science. If the above is still their goal, it was a good move to get rid of him.

16 posted on 04/06/2006 6:04:05 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: saganite

That was my first reaction. "Best known for its football team..." !!???

Must have been a lame attempt at sarcasm.


17 posted on 04/06/2006 6:44:51 AM PDT by Jedidah
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Come on. Where is the proof of evolution that goes beyond variation within a species or fruit flies begatting fruit flies...begatting fruit flies that can't breed with the original fruit flies?

I just haven't seen any proof so I a find this more scientific than thou pontificating to be rather dishonest.

18 posted on 04/06/2006 8:04:47 AM PDT by DrewsDad
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"Football school? When was the last time Baylor had a decent team?"

It's a "football school" only in contrast to its' scholarship...

19 posted on 04/06/2006 10:48:16 AM PDT by Redbob
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To: saganite

Baylor is a Women's Basketball school.


20 posted on 04/06/2006 10:49:56 AM PDT by dfwgator (Florida Gators - 2006 NCAA Men's Basketball Champions)
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