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To: starfish923
Muslims do not circumcize.

Actually, yes they do.

It's a dying practice, like it or not.

I personally couldn't care less. So why are you getting all hot and bothered by a little piece of skin on a guy's penis?

350 posted on 04/06/2006 7:34:34 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (Hitler and Stalin have nothing on Abortion)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
Muslims do not circumcize.
Actually, yes they do.

Actually, no they don't. Your source is incorrect, though SOME Muslims did do it at a most esoteric level. MOST Mulsims are not Arabs, that is, 75%, so that esoteric minscule amount is neglible. It is NOT a Muslim or Arab practice.
I lived in Saudi Arabia for five years.....Muslims do NOT practice circumcision.

It's a dying practice, like it or not.
I personally couldn't care less. So why are you getting all hot and bothered by a little piece of skin on a guy's penis?

Well, YOU came to ME with your reply. You posted to me, obvioulsy all hot and bothered, NOT the other way around. Nice try.

Circumcision was one of the first, if not the first pragmatic, as opposed to dogmatic, schisms in the earliest Catholic/Christian Church.

The first Christians were Jewish, of course, but soon Gentiles converted (thanks muchly to Paul, the Jew - turned - Roman, the disciple of the Gentiles). Christian Jews or Jewish Christians expected the new Gentile Christians to be circumcised because they had to become “pure” and “clean,” as was the Jewish law for males.

Those first Christian Gentiles refused to do so. Thus the first schism – over circumcision. But the end of the first century the popes (successors of Peter, the first pope) had declared that Gentiles did not have to be circumcised.

The first popes were: St. Peter (32-67, St. Cletus (76-88) St. Clement I (88-97), St. Evaristus (97-105), St. Alexander (105-115), St. Sixtus I (115-125). They wrestled with the circumcision problem right from the get-go.

That decision effectively shut out Jews. THEY wouldn’t have anything to do with the impure, unclean, un-circumcised Gentiles, thus isolating and segregating themselves from the rest of the Christians. The Gentiles wouldn’t get circumcised, thus isolating and segregating themselves from Jews.

Arabs were Gentiles. They were some of the first Christians too. They wouldn’t circumcise their male babies either. It was anathema to them, like it was to all Gentiles. The first Muslims, in the 7th century, were Arabs, but with the spread of Islam to MOSTLY non-Arabs (75% are not Arabs) the practice of circumcision did NOT catch on beyond the Jewish faith.

Since Muslims, Hindus, Oriental Asians, Africans and Christians (except for the U.S.A.) don't practice circumcison, that WOULD BE about 90% of the world that DOESN'T practice circumcision.

404 posted on 04/06/2006 3:07:31 PM PDT by starfish923
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