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1 posted on 04/05/2006 2:30:05 PM PDT by Conservative Coulter Fan
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Rush recaps Illegal Immigration news and adds an historical perspective...

2 posted on 04/05/2006 2:41:38 PM PDT by HiJinx (~ www.proudpatriots.org ~ Serving Those Who Serve Us ~ Operation Easter/Passover ~)
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Stellar!! Especially the part from Herbert Meyer


3 posted on 04/05/2006 2:48:53 PM PDT by dennisw (If you know the enemy and know yourself you need not fear the results of a hundred battles-Sun Tzu)
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Meyer and Limbaugh still won't hit the real point.

And that is that Mexicans are simply coming as colonists, and if you want to ask them, they will tell you quite plainly that's what they are doing.

Nobody seems to want to take them at their word. Even when they create insurrection in the streets.

They have been raised to believe that all the problems of Mexico are the fault of the evil gringos who "took our land". So when they go North, they assume that they are simply taking what's theirs. As if everything here just sprang up out of nowhere....

But logic doesn't enter into it. And trying to understand it logically within the context of American experience won't make sense of it.

They aren't immigrants. They're invaders. It's an Immivasion, being conducted with malice aforethought. When they say, "We will speak our own language. We will fly our flag. We will make laws that suit us, not you. We will make territorial demands and you will capitulate", they are asserting their own Nationhood on our soil.

This is what is happening. They are setting up a separate country within the United States. Once they have a critical mass of people, it will be a fact!.

And the weak will say, "there's nothing we can do. we can't deport them all - that would be mean!".

And that's exactly what they know will happen. They're counting on it. If there's one thing Hispanic cultures understand, it's how the strong take advantage of the weak.

And they know the current America ain't populated by the tough guys of the past. Nope. They know the current population are patsies waiting to be taken.

And "Taking" is exactly what they have in mind.

4 posted on 04/05/2006 3:04:17 PM PDT by Regulator (Are You Strong Enough To Hold It?)
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The problem is the second group of Hispanics. They aren’t immigrants ... Whether they remain in the U.S. for one year, or ten years – or for the rest of their lives – they don’t conduct themselves like immigrants. ... But they have little interest in learning English themselves, and instead demand that we make it possible for them to function here in Spanish. They put their children in our schools, but don’t always demand as much from them as previous groups demanded of their kids. They don’t always pay their taxes – or insure their cars.

I see this all the time here in CA, even amongst the 2nd and 3rd generation born to illegals. They love Mexico and all things Mexican. Children speak broken English with Mexican accents, even tho they and their parents were born here!

"But it doesn't make intuitive sense that importing the poor of Latin America would benefit us. If low-skill workers were key to economic growth, Mexico would be an economic powerhouse ... The National Research Council reports that an immigrant to the U.S. without a high-school diploma — whether legal or illegal — consumes $89,000 more in governmental services than he pays in taxes during his lifetime. ...60% [of illegals] have less than a high-school degree.

$89K? Wow. THAT number needs to get around. It'll energize people on this subject just as the Mexican flags are.
5 posted on 04/05/2006 3:09:30 PM PDT by Serenissima Venezia (Stop the “No Illegal Alien Left Behind Act” – call/email/fax/write your Senators today!)
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Rush is right (as usual :) when he slams shamnesty as being unenforceable.

I am a Criminal Alien. I invaded this country in Feb, 2006.

I come to you to get shamnesty. You ask how long I have been in the US. I say 10 years. You ask if I have proof. I say no, that I have been working low paying jobs and I've always been paid in cash.

How are you going to prove I'm lying?


Let's say it is decided to let the Criminal Aliens hang around for three years and then they have to go home. How can you guarantee they go home?

Without some kind of tamper-proof national ID card, I don't see how shamnesty can work from a logistics standpoint.

If you know, please share the info, I'd like to know.

6 posted on 04/05/2006 3:35:35 PM PDT by upchuck (Wikipedia.com - the most unbelievable web site in the world.)
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On Thursday, Rep. Hilda Solis, D-Calif., and co-sponsor Rep. Luis Gutierrez, D-Ill plan to introduce a bill in the U.S. House that calls for a commission to study the "deportation and coerced emigration" Mexicans in the 1930's! And reparations are mentioned!

It's a USA Today article today, front page, titled "US urged to apologize for 1930s deportations". We can't post USA Today articles here or I'd post it.


7 posted on 04/05/2006 3:44:47 PM PDT by Peach
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I see this all as a good thing, and here is why I say this. It has become painfully obvious to me, and I assume millions of others, that the federal government has become a bloated, entrenched bureaucracy suffering from the same disease that infects all bureaucracies regardless of whether they are the product of Communism, Socialism, or in our case, a Representative Republic. The disease is 'inertia'. Each bureaucracy, from it's inception and regardless of its stated purpose, is first and foremost devoted to self preservation. As each session of Congress creates even more bureaucracies to 'solve' problems, the inertia becomes more acute. Witness the creation of the Department of Homeland Security to 'solve' the problem of lack of coordination between a matrix of agencies created previously to 'solve' inadequacies of earlier bureaucracies which were created to correct earlier deficiencies ... etc. ... etc.

Why is this a good thing? Because it is crystal clear to me that the federal government, even as it relentlessly covets more and more power, has demonstrated that it is incapable of administrating the excruciating mountain of laws it has already promulgated .... witness the simple one sentence responsibility of protecting our borders ... and it aspires to create another bureaucracy to 'solve' the problem. Once again ... why is this good? Because hopefully Americans will realize that the federal government is not the solution. They are the problem. It is up to the states to solve their own problems. Citizens of Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, California, and every state in the union need to realize that Washington, DC is inept and demand that their state governments address the illegal immigration problem by deploying the national guard and closing the border. If the state representatives are too cowardly to act, then they need to be replaced. The Federal government will not solve this problem!

11 posted on 04/05/2006 5:21:41 PM PDT by layman (Card Carrying Infidel)
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