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Newly found species fills evolutionary gap between fish and land animals
EurekAlert (AAAS) ^ | 05 April 2006 | Staff

Posted on 04/05/2006 10:32:31 AM PDT by PatrickHenry

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To: Zavien Doombringer
Darwins Dead?

I do not understand. Is that a title, "Darwins Dead"? A name of an organization or a person?
81 posted on 04/05/2006 11:57:33 AM PDT by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: CarolinaGuitarman

"Must make you proud inventing such an ignorant strawman argument. Do you have anything of substance to say about THIS find, or are you content to just make things up?"

To be sure, that was not a bad satire of the often ridiculous extrapolations made on popular "science" shows like "When Dinosaurs Roamed" (or whatever it was called). I mean, with a few exception, they don't know how these critters moved and certainly can't tell us much about how they behaved, but those programs make out as if we know as much about their behaviour and life cycle as we do African lions, for example. I wouldn't mind it too much if they would preface the show (and every return from a commercial) with a disclaimer that nearly everything you are about to see is highly (extremely highly) speculatory.


82 posted on 04/05/2006 12:00:53 PM PDT by -YYZ-
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To: NapkinUser; js1138
js1138: Gravity was a law before it became a theory.

Now you're just lying.

Saying doesn't make it so. Do you have a specific objection or are you just in the mood to be contrary?

83 posted on 04/05/2006 12:03:13 PM PDT by Condorman (Prefer infinitely the company of those seeking the truth to those who believe they have found it.)
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To: Dimensio
to make the remark that humans did evolve from something similar sounds like it is wishful thinking that he, a human, likes the idea of being a creation evolved from a fishlike creature, instead of being created by a loving God in His likeness...

I dunno... maybe some do like that idea...

84 posted on 04/05/2006 12:03:51 PM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (The UN 1967 Outer Space Treaty is bad for America and bad for humanity - DUMP IT!)
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To: -YYZ-
"To be sure, that was not a bad satire of the often ridiculous extrapolations made on popular "science" shows like "When Dinosaurs Roamed" (or whatever it was called)"

Sure it was. It made the poster look like an ignoramus.

"I mean, with a few exception, they don't know how these critters moved and certainly can't tell us much about how they behaved, but those programs make out as if we know as much about their behaviour and life cycle as we do African lions, for example."

Actually, looking at the bones can give an excellent understanding of how they moved. Is there a lot of speculation on behavior? Sure; but they don't, contrary to anti-evo belief, just make it up out of thin air.
85 posted on 04/05/2006 12:04:07 PM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman ("Things are not what they always seem.")
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To: PatrickHenry
Interesting project at Arizona. One thing to note is that the Tree of Life page has nothing on methods that I saw.

The analogy to red shift is also not sound scientifically, but as a lay explanation is fine. Don't ever confuse the two and forget DNA in living organisms propigated by reproduction over time is not the same as particles of light travelling in space.

Here is a better tree of life project.

Also, I am not sure if the text accompanying the post (10) is yours or from the project page in Arizona. eg, "Creationists are forever claiming that the evolutionary picture revealed by the evidentiary jigsaw puzzle is nothing more than the arbitrary result of our prejudices..."

Is this your writing or is it taken from the Arizona ToL project?

Thanks.

86 posted on 04/05/2006 12:04:12 PM PDT by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: AmericaUnited

Did you write all that yourself?


87 posted on 04/05/2006 12:04:28 PM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: Dimensio

no, the upsidedown darwin walking fish is a symbol of the theory of evolution is over...


88 posted on 04/05/2006 12:04:50 PM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (The UN 1967 Outer Space Treaty is bad for America and bad for humanity - DUMP IT!)
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To: CarolinaGuitarman

Dinosaur science is a term that refers to older, less useful and informative methods being used. If you were a scientist you'd know that.


89 posted on 04/05/2006 12:06:07 PM PDT by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: tallhappy
Is this your writing or is it taken from the Arizona ToL project?

Mine. If I quote something, I always say so and give the source.

90 posted on 04/05/2006 12:06:28 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Yo momma's so fat she's got a Schwarzschild radius.)
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To: Zavien Doombringer
no, the upsidedown darwin walking fish is a symbol of the theory of evolution is over...

I see. I suppose that posting such an image is easier than providing actual evidence to support the claim, however it is far less convincing.
91 posted on 04/05/2006 12:06:40 PM PDT by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: tallhappy
Interesting and noteworthy, but 19th century science in the 21st century must be taken with a grain of salt.

What a stupid remark. So if we find a fossil in the 21st century, it's 19th century research?

92 posted on 04/05/2006 12:07:09 PM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: Kenny Bunkport
Evolution is a observed fact

So, someone has actually observed something rise from nothing, observed life rise from non-life, observed multi-celled organisms rise from single-celled organisms, observed intelligence rise from non-intelligence? You've got yourself a scoop there, buddy.

No, most people have observed it including yourself. Evolution is defined simply as occurring change or change is ongoing or a observed fact. The Theory of Evolution explains the observed fact. For the simplest proof there are 6.7 billion people on earth and no two have been found to be exactly the same so some change has occurred. Get a picture of your parents and stand in front of a mirror. If you are exactly the same no change has occurred and you are a clone. However is if there is any difference, no matter how small, some change or evolution has occurred. Evolution whether by reproduction or nature is still change.

No one has observed something rise from nothing, observed life rise from non-life, observed multi-celled organisms rise from single-celled organisms, observed intelligence rise from non-intelligence, nor has science proclaimed to do so. It does not address things other than observed facts. That you would pretend that it does is dishonest and misinterpetation. The origin of life is your faith and belief and when you can present it as a material fact it will be explained by science.

Now if you have looked in that mirror, you may find that you are a clone in thought but you have changed as a material fact.

93 posted on 04/05/2006 12:08:25 PM PDT by jec41 (Screaming Eagle)
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To: Zavien Doombringer
to make the remark that humans did evolve from something similar sounds like it is wishful thinking that he, a human, likes the idea of being a creation evolved from a fishlike creature, instead of being created by a loving God in His likeness...

I do not understand how anyone could reach such a conclusion. It certainly does not appear to be a logical derivation from the original statement. The statement that humans evolved from "something similar" is a conclusion drawn from the physical evidence. What a person wants to believe is irrelevant. Moreover, I do not understand how you have drawn any implications regarding what the individual wishes to believe about a specific deity.
94 posted on 04/05/2006 12:08:51 PM PDT by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: AmericaUnited; spetznaz; Strategerist; Kenny Bunkport; Zavien Doombringer
Exactly! LOL! But that's what you get when these people are so desparate...

There's nothing "desparate [sic]" about reporting yet another find (out of countless thousands) which yet again match the predictions of evolutionary theory and thereby confirming evolution, while violating the predictions of the anti-evolutionists and thereby falsifying the beliefs of the anti-evolutionists. It happens on a daily basis.

What is "desparate [sic]" however, is the frantic hand-waving, frightened ridicule, rash straw men, urgent dismissals, and reckless insults employed by the anti-evolutionists in a frenzied attempt to try to convince anyone that these kinds of finds aren't actually the overwhelming confirmation of evolution that they obviously are.

If you're still unclear on the concept, read this: Explaining the Scientific Method.

95 posted on 04/05/2006 12:12:06 PM PDT by Ichneumon
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To: CarolinaGuitarman

"Actually, looking at the bones can give an excellent understanding of how they moved."

Up to a point. When I was child all the museums and books protrayed T.Rex and his close relatives as Godzilla-type creatures, standing up, quite improbably on their hind legs. Now they are pictured as carrying themselves much more like birds, with tail out behind and neck and head forward.

"Sure; but they don't, contrary to anti-evo belief, just make it up out of thin air."

They extrapolate so far from so little that they might almost as well. But of course those shows are not science, they're entertainment.


96 posted on 04/05/2006 12:12:36 PM PDT by -YYZ-
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To: Zavien Doombringer
no, the upsidedown darwin walking fish is a symbol of the theory of evolution is over...

In your dreams. Meanwhile, the vast and overwhelming mountains of evidence and research findings confirming evolutionary biology, along multiple independent cross-confirming lines, continues to mount higher on a daily basis.

Are you sure you know what in the hell you're talking about?

97 posted on 04/05/2006 12:14:03 PM PDT by Ichneumon
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To: tallhappy
Interesting and noteworthy, but 19th century science in the 21st century must be taken with a grain of salt.

Nonsense. Good science is good science and bad science is bad science, regardless of era.
Maxwell's Equations are still in use today. We still produce Sodium by the same basic method that Davy pioneered in 1807.

98 posted on 04/05/2006 12:14:06 PM PDT by blowfish
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To: Right Wing Professor
What a stupid remark.

Thats trollhappy for ya.

I am going to go out on a limb and make a few bold predictions:

In his next few posts he will insult your knowledge and credentials. Then he will post pages of irrelevant information from random sources. Finally at the end of everything (after he takes his meds?) he'll say it was all a joke and you should lighten up.

99 posted on 04/05/2006 12:14:48 PM PDT by RightWingNilla
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To: Dimensio; Zavien Doombringer
[Hmmm, so you are hoping that you are a descendant of a fish?]

I saw nothing in Strategerist's posting that suggests that he (or she, as the case may be) is "hoping" for anything. Why do you ask such a question?

...because that's the way Zavien Doombringer reaches *his* conclusions, and thus he (incorrectly) presumes that everyone else does likewise.

100 posted on 04/05/2006 12:15:00 PM PDT by Ichneumon
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