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Romney to Sign Mandatory Health Bill
NewsMax.com ^ | April 4, 2006 | NewsMax Staff

Posted on 04/05/2006 7:05:04 AM PDT by CSM

Tuesday, April 4, 2006 10:54 p.m. EDT Romney to Sign Mandatory Health Bill

BOSTON -- Lawmakers overwhelmingly approved a bill Tuesday that would make Massachusetts the first state to require that all its citizens have some form of health insurance.

The plan — approved just 24 hours after the final details were released — would use a combination of financial incentives and penalties to dramatically expand access to health care over the next three years and extend coverage to the state's estimated 500,000 uninsured.

If all goes as planned, poor people will be offered free or heavily subsidized coverage; those who can afford insurance but refuse to get it will face increasing tax penalties until they obtain coverage; and those already insured will see a modest drop in their premiums.

The measure does not call for new taxes but would require businesses that do not offer insurance to pay a $295 annual fee per employee.

The cost was put at $316 million in the first year, and more than a $1 billion by the third year, with much of that money coming from federal reimbursements and existing state spending, officials said.

The House approved the bill on a 154-2 vote. The Senate endorsed it 37-0.

A final procedural vote is needed in both chambers of the Democratic-controlled legislature before the bill can head to the desk of Gov. Mitt Romney, a potential Republican candidate for president in 2008. Romney spokesman Eric Fehrnstrom said the governor would sign the bill but would make some changes that wouldn't "affect the main purpose of the bill."

Legislators praised the effort.

"It's only fitting that Massachusetts would set forward and produce the most comprehensive, all-encompassing health care reform bill in the country," said House Speaker Salvatore DiMasi, a Democrat. "Do we know whether this is perfect or not? No, because it's never been done before."

The only other state to come close to the Massachusetts plan is Maine, which passed a law in 2003 to dramatically expand health care. That plan relies largely on voluntary compliance.

"What Massachusetts is doing, who they are covering, how they're crafting it, especially the individual requirement, that's all unique," said Laura Tobler, a health policy analyst for the National Conference of State Legislatures.

The plan hinges in part on two key sections: the $295-per-employee business assessment and a so-called "individual mandate," requiring every citizen who can afford it to obtain health insurance or face increasing tax penalties.

Liberals typically support employer mandates, while conservatives generally back individual responsibility.

"The novelty of what's happened in this building is that instead of saying, `Let's do neither,' leaders are saying, `Let's do both,'" said John McDonough of Health Care for All. "This will have a ripple effect across the country."

The state's poorest — single adults making $9,500 or less a year — will have access to health coverage with no premiums or deductibles.

Those living at up to 300 percent of the federal poverty level, or about $48,000 for a family of three, will be able to get health coverage on a sliding scale, also with no deductibles.

The vast majority of Massachusetts residents who are already insured could see a modest easing of their premiums.

Individuals deemed able but unwilling to purchase health care could face fines of more than $1,000 a year by the state if they don't get insurance.

Romney pushed vigorously for the individual mandate and called the legislation "something historic, truly landmark, a once-in-a-generation opportunity."

One goal of the bill is to protect $385 million pledged by the federal government over each of the next two years if the state can show it is on a path to reducing its number of uninsured.

The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services has threatened to withhold the money if the state does not have a plan up and running by July 1.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: commonwealth; dukakisii; fakerepublican; healthypeople; healthypeople2010; hillaryromneycare; rinomoron; rinowatch; romney; romneytherino; socialismuberalles
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To: Between the Lines
Yeah, I love the play or pay provision. They all but admit they have no way to pay for this crap unless they inflict brigandage upon the middle class taxpayer.
321 posted on 04/06/2006 6:02:51 AM PDT by .cnI redruM (Watching the Left turn on Senator McCain amuses me somehow....)
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To: massgopguy

I am so glad I don't live up there any more. I wish my parents would escape...


322 posted on 04/06/2006 6:08:27 AM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: pleikumud
Think it through before getting to upset. Right now, we have socialized medicine whether you like it or not. Many individuals and families do not have insurance (even though they could afford it) and use Emergency Room services as their primary care. The hospitals are required to treat these people by a combination of law and for tort mitigation. Who do you think pays for these services??? You and I do! The medical facilities charge higher prices for medical services to make up for those who don't pay. This results in higher premiums and higher co-pays.

As for MD businesses, they support this. The charge of $295 per employee is not a lot, it is less than 3% of minimum wage employee salaries.

The cost of health care is a major problem facing this country. This is one of the more reasonable approaches that I have seen and it is a hell of alot better than the gov't taking over health care altogether.
323 posted on 04/06/2006 7:09:52 AM PDT by al_again
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To: colorcountry
We do not have the fattest people in the world. This distinction is held by the country of Brazil! Remember 25 years ago when famine was the largest health threat to the worlds people and now the largest problem (literally and figuratively) is obesity! My how the times have changed.
324 posted on 04/06/2006 7:12:20 AM PDT by al_again
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To: WOSG
When one gets sick and can't pay or refuses to, they are in fact a liability to society. A doctor on these threads chimed in saying that in the past 2% of medical bills were left unpaid by deadbeats. He wrote that it is 20% today. That is a liability that needs to be covered by me and you, assuming you have insurance, because it is unlikely that you have the money to pay for some biker who needs his head repaired because he neither has the sense to wear a helmet and buy insurance to protect society from his irresponsibility.

I really think that there are many so-called conservatives on this thread who think like GWB does with the federal budget. He is irresponsible as I think many are with other peoples money and the consequences of wishful thinking. It is not right to make someone else pay for ones care and it is not right to make a future generation pay for ones consumption, as GWB, through his very large budget deficits, has.
325 posted on 04/06/2006 7:23:43 AM PDT by Final Authority
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To: al_again
We do not have the fattest people in the world.

I believe I said we have the fattest POOR people. I meant fattest people in poverty. I've also heard it said that in the USA, the majority of people listed in 'poverty' have a car, TV, AND are fat. I'm certain they get far better health care also than the corresponding poverty members in other countries.

326 posted on 04/06/2006 7:29:04 AM PDT by colorcountry (You don't have a soul. You are a Soul. You have a body.....CS Lewis)
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To: JRochelle
Show me where I called you a bigot, in a declarative sentence, like, you are a .....

Or, did I write and point out your lack of substance (facts directly associated with Mitt, not a broad-brush of LDS and the people who share that faith tradition) with respect to your unreasonable intolerance for Mitt and LDS and then write that it is an indication of a bigoted person or a bigoted view?

Tell me which is true and prove it.
327 posted on 04/06/2006 7:31:10 AM PDT by Final Authority
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To: al_again

"we have socialized medicine whether you like it or not"

A significant part is still private, but too much is already socialized. Having the federal gov't or a state gov't dictate that people buy medical insurance is contrary to the principles of the U.S. Constitution. (So is Social Security, etc.)
The Massachusetts plan will collapse under the weight of people who want something for nothing, then the liberal lunatics will say the Federal gov't should rescue it. The Massachusetts plan is a step toward more socialized medicine. There will never be enough taxpayers to pay for all the things, including medical care, that people think they are entitled to. How about free housing, free food, free education, free retirement, so everyone can be equal like the peasants on Stalin's collective farms? - Completely equal slaves to the state.


328 posted on 04/06/2006 7:39:01 AM PDT by pleikumud
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To: Final Authority
Well I'm not going to go back and try to find where we tangled before.
I just know that you have thrown the word bigot at me. I don't care if it was in a question or referring to a view. If one has a bigoted view, is one not a bigot?
Another point, you defend Mitt, no matter what he does, I believe based on your shared religion. You are free to do so although it tends to invalidate your argument, since its shaded by your religious beliefs.
329 posted on 04/06/2006 7:42:59 AM PDT by JRochelle
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To: CSM

Don't like the Romneys, never did.

BUT, I have mixed feelings on this bill.

The way ROmney explained it, the state is ALREADY paying this amount of money out for medical coverage for these people. The difference here is that the state will now be paying for medical insurance coverage instead and getting a better bang for the taxpayer buck in doing so.

As for mandating health coverage by employers - I don't know about that. But at least it will discourage employers of illegal aliens there. They don't want to provide medical coverage for their illegals and want to pass the social cost of that on to the taxpayers.


330 posted on 04/06/2006 7:54:01 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: pleikumud

How is the state gov't doing this against the principles of the constitution?


331 posted on 04/06/2006 8:06:37 AM PDT by al_again
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To: pleikumud
As to your other points, I don't know where to begin. I'll just stick to the health care aspect as otherwise I could be typing for hours.

My guess (and it is only a guess) is that you are provided your health care through a company. In the last year I started my own business and the health care aspect of this has been a nightmare. I ended up getting an HSA plan with a 5k deductible. When we go to the doctor for anything several things happen:
1) The services are way overpriced. I cannot believe what I am charged for simple visits. People under standard insurance never really appreciate the costs as they typically only pay 15 or 25 dollar co-pays.
2) My insurance company denies all claims regardless of merit. The denial is just to keep my yearly claims under 5k so they don't need to pay anything. It is a real hassle to dispute and I don't (which is exactly what they count on)

My costs for health care are going to be over 11k per year (premiums, dr visits, drugs). This is for normal care. How is an unskilled, uneducated person supposed to
1) pay these types of costs?
2) navigate the impossible bureaucracy that is health care today?
332 posted on 04/06/2006 8:28:11 AM PDT by al_again
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To: elfman2

The worst part for me is the forcing of everyone to have health insurance. They will use the law to eliminate the choices some people would prefer.


333 posted on 04/06/2006 8:59:16 AM PDT by CSM (Liberalism is a disease. FreeRepublic is the antidote. - Mindbender26, 3/29/2006)
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To: Final Authority

If "everyone will need it" then it's no longer INSURANCE (look it up).


334 posted on 04/06/2006 9:04:02 AM PDT by newguy357
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To: Final Authority

"The Massachusetts plan subsidizes personal responsibility."

This is about the third time you made this statement. For clarification can you explain to me how government provided health insurance subsidizes personal responsibility? If the individual does not earn something, they don't take responsibility for it. Instead they abuse it.


335 posted on 04/06/2006 9:17:15 AM PDT by CSM (Liberalism is a disease. FreeRepublic is the antidote. - Mindbender26, 3/29/2006)
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To: CSM
...and those already insured will see a modest drop in their premiums.

More likely, their premiums will go up.

336 posted on 04/06/2006 9:27:12 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: theDentist

My 15 year old daughter has been saying for a few years now how she intends to move out of MA after college.


337 posted on 04/06/2006 9:46:55 AM PDT by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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To: massgopguy

When will the state just implement a Witholding Tax for Compulsory Health Insurance? How about a tax on my healthcare witholdings?


338 posted on 04/06/2006 9:49:02 AM PDT by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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To: VanDeKoik

"Yeah, this guy is presidential timber all right."

That's what the logger yells just before it hits the forest floor.

Since he's wortless timber, grind him up for paper pulp.


339 posted on 04/06/2006 9:50:45 AM PDT by dalereed
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To: CSM
If you think health care is expensive now, just wait until it's "free"- PJ O'Rourke
340 posted on 04/06/2006 9:51:56 AM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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