Posted on 04/05/2006 5:41:25 AM PDT by GeneD
A quick Bobby Vee story-When Vee had Please Don't Ask About Barbara out in early 1962,he was invited onto American Bandstand.However,Dick Clark would not let him do his current hit.Why?
Seems that at this time Clark was in the midst of divorcing his wife.Her name?
Barbara!
I don't believe Charles Fizer, the member in question, belonged to the group at the time of the riot. I read that he was shot when he drove his mother's 1956 Buick through a police barricade.
I have seen Vernon Green and Don Julian perform many times. Vernon Green was never in good health. The last time I saw him perform, around 2000, he was in a wheel chair.
I've never seen the home where Earth Angel was written, but I have seen Cleveland Duncan and the Penguins perform. They ushered in 1984 at the Olympic Auditorium by singing "Auld Sang Syne."
Speaking of musical pilgrimages, not long ago, I drove past the building that once housed Utopia Cleaners in Watts. An employee there apparently served as the inspiration for "The Man From Utopia" by Donald Woods & The Vel-Aires, the B side--and, in my view, the better side--of their 1955 hit "Death of an Angel," which was probably inspired by the Penguins' "Earth Angel." Utopia Cleaners is no longer in business.
I loved the Sapphires. "Who Do You Love" and "I've Got To Have Your Love" were their two biggest in Philly. Also, the pre-MFSB Three Degrees, when they were on Swan -- "Gee Baby I'm Sorry" was a good one you probably know. Do you remember The Ebonaires "Love Call"? And I don't even want to get started on The Dubs --they were so good -- "Chapel Of Love" and "Could This Be Magic" and "Don't Ask Me To Be Lonely." They're starting to come back to me now!
Wow, lucky you, Fiji Hill, to have seen those great ones. Weren't the Blue Jays ("A Lover's Island") from LA too? I have some vague recollection of the lead singer working as a dishwasher at a Sheraton in someplace like Marina del Rey. Another South Central landmark I paid homage too was the Richard Berry home. And, of course, the former Satellite Hotel (think that's what it was called) where Sam Cooke was shot.
I've also seen Leon Peels, lead singer of the Blue Jays, perform on a number of occasions. He has been active in the Doo Wop Society, a group that promotes group harmony music.
From the mid-1980's through the early 2000's, the society put on a number of concerts. Performers included the Calvanes, Shirley Gunter and the Queens, the Bobbettes, and so on. When the Harptones performed, I thought they sounded beetter than they do on the records they made five decades earlier.
Sadly, the society seems to be in decline as "doo wop" music fades into history. Nonetheless, its website makes for interesting reading.
Beautiful website, FH. I went to one of the Petroleum Club concerts in the late 90s. One of the hosts was Paul Peterson, formerly of "The Donna Reed Show." I got to know Paul a little bit when I lived out there; a good, if somewhat frantic, guy. But he sure knows and loves his doo wop. Lucky you to have met Richard Berry and Leon Peels. I wish I had had the foresight to connect with those guys. LA has a great doo wop tradition, like New York and Philly. One group I did see in LA, and I think the best white doo wop group ever, was Pittsburgh's Skyliners. Jimmy Beaumont was still lead singer, and I think they had one or two other originals. They sounded great.
By the way, DC also has a good doo-wop tradition, including the Five Blue Notes ("Ooh, Baby" and "Something Awful") the Starlighters ("Whomp! Whomp!"), a group that, I believe, featured future disco star Van McCoy, and, of course, the Clovers.
You're right about DC, Fiji Hill. Weren't The Ravens from DC also? How about The Dominoes? I know they are more proto-doo wop. Billy Stewart was another great DC singer.
Must have been something to see Janet Vogel hitting those high notes. And Bull Moose Jackson must have been a trip. "Big Ten Inch Record" is a riot.
Any chance you ever saw Clyde McPhatter?
I saw Lee Andrews and the Hearts many times. They were great on the ballads.
Thanks for that excellent research. Both Jay's are alive and singing well!
Thanks for the Bobby Vee story. It's amazing what you can learn here !
"Tear Drops" by Lee Andrew & The Hearts is one of the first records I ever bought. My favorite tune by that group is "The Clock."
I never saw Clyde McPhatter. He died in 1972, while I was studying in Germany. My favorite record of his is "Without Love" (1957), which sounds like a Protestant hymn from the Gilded Age.
I'll have to recheck Conot's book to get the details.
Here is a music+riot trivia question for you
Several members of what famous R and B group from the Seventies were involved in a tragic incident stemming from the huge 1967 Detroit riot?
Yeah,those tunes bring back some memories for sure.Two other great 1963 songs were Mama Didn't Lie by Jan Bradley and the Blendells',Daughter,You Better Leave Those Boys Alone.
I have the original 45 of Lover's Island.
I remember having a terrible first day of high school in Sept,1961 and then coming home and hearing Lovers Island and for two and a half minutes at least all was right with the world!
Paul Peterson was no slouch.His version of Roses and Lollipops was one of my favorites.Oh,and don't forget My Dad from 1963.
And much props to The Skyliners.Check their version of Over the Rainbow sometime.Of couse,This I Swear still thrills me today.Loved how it was used in the movie,La Bamba.
Might have to break out the ole record player one day soon. RIP Gene and thanks for the memories.
Oh,here is a question I have for speedy,Fijihill or anyone else
I work around a lot of Latino kids and they seem to be the only group of young people who care about the doo wop oldies and old soul of the Sixties.The black kids are into rap and the white kids into metal and/or rap as well.Yet the Mexican kids know Jesse Belvin,Brenton Wood,Neil Sedaka,Little Anthony,etc.
Any ideas why this particular group still bumps the sounds of our youth?
Riverman -- I noticed that too. I think it is mainly an LA phenomenon, and I could not tell you why. I remember even in the late 90s, I could drive through East LA and hear kids listening to Huggy Boy on KRLA playing anything from the Bobby Fuller Four to the El Dorados to Johnny Ace. I recall going to an Eric Burdon concert in San Gabriel at The Brave Bull, and my wife and I were about the only non-Hispanics in the place.
Speaking of LA, another group from there was The Six Teens of "A Casual Look" fame. Also Don and Dewey, who I saw a few years ago in Pasadena. Brenton Wood was a great one, vastly underappreciated. "Baby You Got It" and "You Got Your Fools Mixed Up" besides the big one.
More songs from the wonderful year of 1963 -- "Talk To Me" by Sunny and the Sunglows; "Our Day Will Come" by Ruby and the Romantics; "So Much In Love" by The Tymes; "You Can't Sit Down" by The Dovells; "One Fine Day" by the Chiffons; "Hot Pastrami" by The Dartells; "Mickey's Monkey" by The Miracles; "If You Wanna Be Happy" by Jimmy Soul; "Sally Go Round The Roses" by the Jaynettes; "Come and Get These Memories" by Martha and the Vandellas. I could even say a kind word for "Six Days On The Road" and "Detroit City."
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