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To: Tailgunner Joe

"Christian Gentleman," perhaps.

"Born Again" through repentance and acceptance of God's only provision for sin, Who is Jesus Christ... doubtful.

Very doubtful.

Spiritually, George Washington is far more known as a Freemason than as any kind of real Born Again Believer. Google "washington freemason," and you'll see this clearly.

All masonic objections notwithstanding, Jesus Christ and Freemasonry are utterly incompatible.

Jesus Christ: "Ye must be born again."

Freemasonry: "We reverance all the great reformers. We see Moses, Confucius, Zoroaster,...Jesus of Nazareth...as great teachers of morality, if no more. Allowing every brother of the order to freely assign to these...even divine character, if his creed and truth require." Albert Pike, Morals and Dogma.

Believe what you like, but do so according to knowledge. A man who is a disciple of Jesus Christ should walk even as He walked. (As saith the LORD. 1 John 2:6)

Uprightness, morality, and a respect for church, God, the Bible, and Christianity are not the same thing as being "Born of water and the Spirit." Millions accept the former while rejecting the latter, and are in the process of creating their own righteousness via works. This is anathema to true Christianity.

Philippians 3:9, "And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith."

Romans 10:6-12, "But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise,...

"That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

"For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

"For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed."


9 posted on 04/04/2006 7:50:15 PM PDT by OneRoomSchooling
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To: OneRoomSchooling

I might add that Freemasonry was in it's infancy in the late 1700's and did not have the current belief system that developed in the wake of early 1800's unitarianism.


11 posted on 04/04/2006 8:07:19 PM PDT by Z.Hobbs
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To: OneRoomSchooling
Here we go another Freemason conspiracy theory.
13 posted on 04/04/2006 8:55:36 PM PDT by newfarm4000n (God Bless America and God Bless Freedom)
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To: OneRoomSchooling; Tailgunner Joe; Z.Hobbs
Believe what you like, but do so according to knowledge.

Thank you, Z.Hobbs. Your post numbers 10 and 11 say far more historically and correctly speaking than OneRoomSchooling's post #9.

I can quote scripture as well as anyone else and I often do, as I have taught courses in Biblical apologetics. Speaking as one who long ago stood where OneRoom does now; however, I found that a little more knowledge and a lot less uninformed judgment of our Founding Fathers goes a long way in one's pursuit of historical accuracy.

14 posted on 04/05/2006 4:37:33 AM PDT by Agamemnon (Intelligent Design is to evolution what the Swift Boat Vets were to the Kerry campaign)
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To: OneRoomSchooling

In 1798, a Reformed minister, the Rev. G.W. Snyder, wrote to Washington with a question much like yours. Washington responded in a September 25, 1798 letter that he wished to "correct an error you have run into, of my Presiding over the English lodges in this Country. The fact is, I preside over none, *nor have I been in one more than once or twice, within the last thirty years*."

It is important to note, as several others have posted, that 18th-Century Freemasonry did not carry the "religious," non-Christian implications it does today. Many early masons were Calvinists and Anglicans of various stripes who loosely associated with lodges to do charity work. One of Washington's few visits to a Masonic lodge involved the lodge's use as a gathering place prior to a walk over to the local church.


17 posted on 04/05/2006 6:44:47 AM PDT by Im4LifeandLiberty
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