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Workers Have Retirement 'Overconfidence'
Yahoo! News ^ | 4/4/06 | EILEEN ALT POWELL

Posted on 04/04/2006 8:13:53 AM PDT by libertarianPA

NEW YORK - The majority of American workers think they'll be able to retire comfortably, but most aren't saving nearly enough to meet that goal, according to a new study.

The Employee Benefit Research Institute's annual retirement confidence survey, released Tuesday, found that about 68 percent of workers are confident about having adequate funds for a comfortable retirement, up slightly from 65 percent in 2005.

At the same time, more than half of all workers say they've saved less than $25,000 toward retirement, according to the Washington, D.C., based research group. Even among workers 55 and older, more than four in 10 have retirement savings under $25,000.

"`Overconfidence' is the word that comes to mind," said Jack VanDerhei, co-author of the study.

He said that the poor savings performance was especially troubling because it comes as many of the nation's employers are eliminating the defined benefit plans — better known as pensions — that have buoyed the retirements of current workers' parents and grandparents. Many companies also are eliminating retiree health care coverage or asking retirees to contribute more for it.

"It's clear that people currently working should factor into their retirement planning the long-term trend away from traditional defined benefit pensions," VanDerhei said. "That means people need to be saving more than they are."

Not all was doom and gloom in the report, the 16th in a series begun in 1991.

More than 70 percent of workers say that they or their spouses have saved something toward retirement — a percentage that's held fairly level for the past six years, EBRI said.

And while many have meager savings, others are doing quite well at accumulating retirement nest eggs, the study found.

While more than half of workers have less than $25,000 set aside, 12 percent have $25,000 to $49,999; 12 percent have $50,000 to $99,999; 11 percent have $100,000 to $249,999; and 12 percent have $250,000 or more.

As would be expected, older workers generally have more set aside than younger workers, with 12 percent of those 55 and older reporting account balances of $100,000 to $249,999, and 26 percent with accounts of $250,000 and up.

VanDerhei believes that people would save more if they took the time to project what their costs in retirement are likely to be. But just 42 percent of workers say they've done such a calculation.

He suggests that people who are comfortable with managing their own accounts can do well with online calculators, including the Ballpark Estimate calculator that can be found on EBRI's sister site at http://www.choosetosave.org/ballpark.

"But some people are absolutely clueless about this and frozen into inactivity as a result," he said. "They really should find a fee-based professional to help them out. It's going to cost a couple of hundred dollars, but you'll make that amount up many times in the future."

The study also found that workers are eager for help in saving more.

Nearly 70 percent of workers said they were either strongly favorable or somewhat favorable to 401(k) and other retirement plans setting up automatic enrollment for new workers, and almost the same percentage favored automatic increases in employee contributions.

Dan Houston, senior vice president for retirement and investor services with Principal Financial Group Inc. in Des Moines, Iowa, said that if workers are told they aren't saving enough, most are willing to increase their 401(k) contributions — including automatic increases each year.

He added that workers should aim to save enough to replace 85 percent of their preretirement income when they stop working, not the 70 percent that many workers believe is adequate.

That may sound daunting, but Houston said a 25-year-old man or woman entering the work force today who immediately starts saving 15 percent of income will be able to retire at 60 with enough savings to do that.

"If you adjust your standard of living right after school, and learn to set aside 15 percent — either by salary deferral or company match — it's doable," he said.

A number of large companies have begun introducing automatic enrollment into their plans to try to get higher participation by younger and lower-income workers, but adoption hasn't become widespread.

The survey was conducted by Mathew Greenwald & Associates, a survey research firm based in Washington, D.C. It involved phone interviews with more than 1,250 individuals, with a margin of error of plus or minus 3 percentage points. Principal Financial was among the underwriters of the study.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism
KEYWORDS: 401k; aarp; fica; retirement; savingsrate; seniorcitizens; socialsecurity; workers
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Funny. I thought the purpose of Social Security was to create a situation in which a retiree didn't HAVE to worry about his retirement. Shouldn't retirees be "overconfident?" After all, for the past 70 years, we've taught them that they didn't have to worry about their post-labor life.

Is this article implying that Social Security isn't enough? If that's the case, shouldn't we just let everyone keep the money they now pay in SS and let them save or invest it as they wish?

1 posted on 04/04/2006 8:13:56 AM PDT by libertarianPA
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To: libertarianPA

Whaat? You mean Social Security is not enough for me to retire on? Nooo!!!!!!!


2 posted on 04/04/2006 8:19:49 AM PDT by Fury
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To: libertarianPA
The majority of American workers think they'll be able to retire comfortably

They will, if they are local, state or federal workers. Their pension plans (funded by the taxpayers) are freaking unbelievable...

3 posted on 04/04/2006 8:21:42 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - They want to die for Islam, and we want to kill them.)
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"Funny. I thought the purpose of Social Security was to create a situation in which a retiree didn't HAVE to worry about his retirement."

Whoever thinks that hasn't been paying attention since 1935! It was never intended to be one's whole retirement plan; it was intended to be part of the "three legged stool" - SS, savings, and pensions. Now that pensions are pretty much replaced by 401k accounts, more of the responsibility for retirement is on the worker.

Social Security was intended to keep people from being in abject poverty in old age, not to provide, by itself, a "worry free" retirement.

It is hard to project what you'll need in retirement, so people tend not to do any calculations. I did read something rather helpful that gave a benchmark of six times your annual income as being a good amount to have tucked away at the time you retire. In my husband's and my case, that means about a million dollars, and at the age of fifty, we're well over than halfway there.


4 posted on 04/04/2006 8:21:59 AM PDT by linda_22003
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To: linda_22003

"well over than" = "well over", sorry about the fractured sentence.


5 posted on 04/04/2006 8:22:54 AM PDT by linda_22003
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To: libertarianPA

"I thought the purpose of Social Security was to create a situation in which a retiree didn't HAVE to worry about his retirement."

The purpose of SS was to keep them from living on the streets. It still functions reasonably well in doing that.


6 posted on 04/04/2006 8:23:58 AM PDT by oldcomputerguy
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To: libertarianPA
Is this article implying that Social Security isn't enough?

Social Security has never been enough, and was never touted as a substitute for personal savings, even when FDR introduced it.

If that's the case, shouldn't we just let everyone keep the money they now pay in SS and let them save or invest it as they wish?

I'm in favor of that, but those who aren't saving wouldn't save the Social Security withholding either.

7 posted on 04/04/2006 8:25:00 AM PDT by sinkspur (Things are about to happen that will answer all your questions and solve all your problems.)
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"They will, if they are local, state or federal workers. Their pension plans (funded by the taxpayers) are freaking unbelievable..."

I work for the state and they take over $200 per check out for my retirement, my money..not the taxpayers.

8 posted on 04/04/2006 8:27:19 AM PDT by No Blue States
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To: linda_22003
Whoever thinks that hasn't been paying attention since 1935! It was never intended to be one's whole retirement plan; it was intended to be part of the "three legged stool" - SS, savings, and pensions.
Worse than that...at the time, the average American's life expectancy was such that he/she would die two years before being eligible to collect a dime.
9 posted on 04/04/2006 8:27:55 AM PDT by peyton randolph (As long is it does me no harm, I don't care if one worships Elmer Fudd.)
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To: linda_22003
"I did read something rather helpful that gave a benchmark of six times your annual income as being a good amount to have tucked away at the time you retire."

Disregarding other income sources in retirement, the amount of money you need is 20-25 times the amount of money you need each year on which to live. The generally accepted yearly draw-down is 4%-5% which presumably then provides an income you will not outlive.

Other sources of income like pensions and SS reduce the lump by their respective contributions to yearly income.
10 posted on 04/04/2006 8:29:08 AM PDT by oldcomputerguy
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To: libertarianPA
And man if they had all the money sent to FICA all those years invested conservatively in an Index Fund, they'd each have 3 times the money or more coming in each month instead of the paltry SS payment in retirement.
11 posted on 04/04/2006 8:29:25 AM PDT by headstamp (Nothing lasts forever, Unless it does.)
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more than half of all workers say they've saved less than $25,000 toward retirement, according to the Washington, D.C., based research group. Even among workers 55 and older, more than four in 10 have retirement savings under $25,000.

This is downright pathetic.

12 posted on 04/04/2006 8:30:04 AM PDT by D-Chivas
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To: linda_22003

As you say, "Social Security was intended to keep people from being in abject poverty in old age." However, its original purpose have bee so perverted that we still have about the same % of elderly poor women as we did when it started. In addition we have a sense of entitlement among everyone else. I think Social Security reform should return to this specific goal and stop paying everyone in America. If people didn't have to pay 13% deductions for Social Securty, but paid a lower insurance contribution, they could put more into their 401K's.


13 posted on 04/04/2006 8:31:48 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: libertarianPA
The democRATS seriously want to harness this trend. They despirately want to use "means testing" in determining who gets to collect Social Security retirement benifits and who doesn't. In the most liberal plan, those who save for their own future (Republicans) would collect little or no SS retirement while those who squandered their paychecks would stand to collect the most.

This is why SS should be privatized, or individualized in such a way that benifit collection is strictly connected to the amount that is paid into the system over the working years. The government should not be redistributing SS money.

14 posted on 04/04/2006 8:35:33 AM PDT by meyer (Dems are stuck on stupid. Al Gore invented stupid.)
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" This is downright pathetic." ( poor retirement savings)

Well after watching a couple of Oprah shows on the "Debt Diet", it is clear that the current crop of American's are absolutely financially clueless ...........but they are probably properly grounded in "Woman's Studies" or other equally useful subject matter.
15 posted on 04/04/2006 8:35:50 AM PDT by oldcomputerguy
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To: ClaireSolt
If people didn't have to pay 13% deductions for Social Securty, but paid a lower insurance contribution, they could put more into their 401K's.The money isn't being "saved" at all, it is being used to pay out to current beneficiaries and fund other government programs... It is obvious even to congress critters that folks would be better off putting the money into an index fund, but it will never happen because of demographics; more retirees, less workers... we can't cut SS by much, since soon that 13% won't even be enough to pay current retirees.
16 posted on 04/04/2006 8:37:43 AM PDT by LambSlave (The truth will set you free)
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To: 2banana

They don't pay into SS. They have money deducted but it is managed so as to make more money which isn't really all that hard to do when compared to SS.

40 years of employment with $5,000 a year in deductions and matching at 5% interest gives the person over $600K in their retirement account. And that's for someone who averaged maybe $40K a year over their career. Have a spouse who worked and you can live pretty large for the last 15 years of your life.


17 posted on 04/04/2006 8:39:06 AM PDT by misterrob (Mo Dowd--More Mileage Than A 75 VW Bus)
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To: No Blue States
I work for the state and they take over $200 per check out for my retirement, my money..not the taxpayers.
>br> With all due respect, where do you think you paycheck comes from?
18 posted on 04/04/2006 8:39:53 AM PDT by yobid (Keep on Rockin' in the Free World)
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To: libertarianPA

bump and save


19 posted on 04/04/2006 8:41:50 AM PDT by krunkygirl
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To: D-Chivas

Extremely pathetic, and tends to back up post #7's theory that those who don't save wouldn't save their SS money if they were given it directly, either.


20 posted on 04/04/2006 8:42:10 AM PDT by linda_22003
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