So what Fox says has anything to do with what Bush says?
I denounce vigilante actions,friend, but I wholly support what the minuteman project is all about and what it is they are doing. If you ask me if I support or oppose the minuteman project and I say to you that I oppose vigilantes, am I saying the minutemen are vigilantes? NOPE. You might take it that way, but that is not what I said at all.
If he believed that minutemen were vigilantes he could have clarified his remarks, which he chose not to do. I can play that game too!!!!
You admitted in your last post that W never said the minutmen were vigilantes. That is proper because he never ever said that. Now you are saying that even though he didn't say it he really did say it?????? Sheesh.
You ask what vigilantes he was referring to. Ok lets go that direction. Has there ever been an example given? Nope. W did spell out what he considers vigilante...and those would be actions that are outside of the mission statement of the minutemen. That would include arrest and detention of Illegal border jumpers. The minutemen do not engage in such a thing.
Being that ACTIONS have shown that the minutemen are not doing what Bush considers vigilante he was not talking about them when he posed his opposition to vigilantes.
W does not pussy foot around when he aims to denounce something. He is direct and to the point. Ask John Kerry about that. Ask Saddam Hussein about that. Ask "imagonnajihad" about that (ahmedenijad).
I stand firm in my defense of W on this point. He never said that the minutemen were vigilantes. I do this because he never said such a thing.
What a person implies or means is open for debate. I have no problem with that. I do take issue when claims are made that a statement was made when it never was made to begin with.
I would say that the best way to solve this is to have our 'beloved' MSM ask a yes or no question. Are the minutemen vigilantes?
Funny how that never has happened eh? You know why? I do. They know he will say NO. He decribed vigilantes as folks that take the law into their own hands and they also know that the minutemen are not doing anything of that nature.
This was a non news fabrication from the very begining.
Bush might as well be Fox's marionette, since everything that Bush says on this issue is a reflection of Fox's opinion.
There is no distance between them-not even a crack of daylight-when it comes to this subject.
And there is no substantive, tangible distinction between Bush implying that the Minutemen are vigilantes and him repeating the phrase "The Minutemen are vigilantes."
This semantical hairsplitting does not do anything to resolve the essential question at issue, i.e. why our president won't uphold his Constitutional duty to enforce the law of the land and protect our borders from invasion and penetration.
Bill Richardson made it explicitly clear where he stood on the Minutemen issue, declaring that while he disagreed with the actions they were taking he commended them for their concern about our So. border-which is as porous as a sieve-and applauded their civic spirit.
Bush, on the other hand, has made it explicitly clear that he disagrees with all-not just some-of the values espoused by the Minutemen, and has no intention of helping border state governors to address this problem head-on.