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To: duckln
#1 Spain deposited it's language, religion and genes that populates everything south of the border and beyond. Their culture is still rich, despite the years, and people good. All they lacked was the miracle of 'founding fathers'. Your question extends to why tolerate the Islamists, Nazies and communists. Do you blame all misfortune leveled on people on Catholicism?

#2 Because it made the most sense. It's missionaries built Churches to preach love, schools to teach free will, and hospitals to heal.

The 'founding fathers' were not a miracle. Also, they weren't predominantly catholic -- the ff were trying to get away from catholicism for many reasons, the primary one being catholics killed those who disagreed with them.

People good? Good people don't enslave other people. Good people don't traffic in drugs. Good people don't advocate mass migration of their disenchanted, discarded ones to another nation to infect it with their "goodness". Churches that preach love? You're kidding. All I've seen from history are churches in that region that preached war for their own purposes -- in El Salvador the church got involved and a lot of priests got killed. Free will? What? Mexico doesn't operate on free will. Venezuela sure doesn't. Cuba doesn't. Peru doesn't. Guatemala probably doesn't have that word in their vocabulary.

Hospitals to heal the poor? In Mexico, I don't know of a hospital (unless recent changes have been made) which will allow someone in the front door for treatment without some kind of payment up front first. That is a well-known fact.

None of your premises will hold water. You and your friends scream about MY credibility? Your arguments are false, they're deceitful and are deliberate disinformation directed toward a generally ignorant public. You're dangerous.

102 posted on 04/05/2006 4:36:39 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
He has taught me incredible things and to seek God and knowledge.

You should have been listening. Or just what 'incredible things' did he teach you. Keep 'seeking', you're not even close, and on the 'knowledge' part get some balance.

You asked two false premised hate filled questions, and I gave you, free, true answers. It seems to have riled you up, which is good. Must have been the dose and truth of reality that sent you into a tissy frit rant.

104 posted on 04/05/2006 8:07:50 AM PDT by duckln
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin; cyborg; Petronski
Also, they weren't predominantly catholic -- the ff were trying to get away from catholicism for many reasons, the primary one being catholics killed those who disagreed with them.,

The Founding Fathers were rather a long way from being menaced by Catholics in their homeland. By the late 18th Century, Britain was 200 years into Anglicanism. At the founding of the Massachusetts Bay Colony in the 17th century, the Puritans were trying to escape the Anglicans, whom they did consider overly "papist." Read what they did to Quakers, Anglicans, and Catholics, not to mention good Protestant folk like Anne Hutchinson and Roger Williams.

In regard to Catholics killed those who disagreed with them., the number of Catholic martyrs in England is probably equal to those punished by the Catholics. Killing each other was merely the way our ancestors settled religious differences. Surely you know that the Protestants burned Catholics at the stake and vice-versa? Protestants also burned Protestants at the stake. Catholics certainly burned Catholics at the stake. Whole lot of burning going on in those days.

Most unsporting and inaccurate of you to pin it all on the Catholics. Gives your remarks a kind of uniquely American "Know-Nothing" flavor.

Autre temps, autres moeurs.

108 posted on 04/05/2006 2:41:30 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (End the hysteria. Admit only legal immigrants who want to become our fellow Americans.)
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