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CA: Speaker, governor's team propose limits on greenhouse gases
AP - Press Enterprise ^ | STEVE LAWRENCE

Posted on 04/03/2006 8:28:27 PM PDT by calcowgirl

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To: FairOpinion
Arnold is simply a liberal Democrat with an "R" label slapped on. As far as I'm concerned, I'm totally unexcited about voting in November, when one can see he's dancing to the Far Left's tune. So if I have to choose between a pretend Democrat and a real one - I'd rather have the real one in office. At least then legislative Republicans will resist a regressive agenda they'll be under pressure to support if Arnold IS re-elected.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

21 posted on 04/03/2006 11:02:55 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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"Its all about posturing and buttering up to the Golden State's enviro wackos."

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No, actually it's all about wrecking CA's economy and that of the US, since CA is the 8th largest economy in the world ( or the 5th -- somewhere in between, I think this year it's the 8th -- but it's pretty significant.)

The envirowackos and the terrorists both have the same goals: wreck the economy, they just use different methods to try to achieve it.


22 posted on 04/03/2006 11:16:57 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: NormsRevenge

You don't think environmental regulations are bad for CA's economy?


23 posted on 04/03/2006 11:17:37 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Yes, I can see how consistent it is with conservative principles to allow the Dems to forever control CA and even actively help them do it. (/sarcasm)


24 posted on 04/03/2006 11:18:58 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: goldstategop

"At least then legislative Republicans will resist a regressive agenda "

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Yes, all 5 of them, that'll really scare the Dems. (/sarcasm)


25 posted on 04/03/2006 11:20:15 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: goldstategop

I like the op-ed by George Will they printed:

http://www.presstelegram.com/opinions/ci_3663223

(snip)

While worrying about Montana's receding glaciers, Schweitzer, who is 50, should also worry about the fact that when he was 20 he was told to be worried, very worried, about global cooling. Science magazine (Dec. 10, 1976) warned of "extensive Northern Hemisphere glaciation." Science Digest (February 1973) reported that "the world's climatologists are agreed" that we must "prepare for the next ice age." The Christian Science Monitor ("Warning: Earth's Climate is Changing Faster than Even Experts Expect," Aug. 27, 1974) reported that glaciers "have begun to advance," "growing seasons in England and Scandinavia are getting shorter" and "the North Atlantic is cooling down about as fast as an ocean can cool." Newsweek agreed ("The Cooling World," April 28, 1975) that meteorologists "are almost unanimous" that catastrophic famines might result from the global cooling that The New York Times (Sept. 14, 1975) said "may mark the return to another ice age." The Times (May 21, 1975) also said "a major cooling of the climate is widely considered inevitable" now that it is "well established" that the Northern Hemisphere's climate "has been getting cooler since about 1950."

In fact, the earth is always experiencing either warming or cooling. But suppose the scientists and their journalistic conduits, who today say they were so spectacularly wrong so recently, are now correct. Suppose the earth is warming and suppose the warming is caused by human activity. Are we sure there will be proportionate benefits from whatever climate change can be purchased at the cost of slowing economic growth and spending trillions? Are we sure the consequences of climate change — remember, a thick sheet of ice once covered the Middle West — must be bad? Or has the science-journalism complex decided that debate about these questions, too, is "over"?

About the mystery that vexes ABC — Why have Americans been slow to get in lock step concerning global warming? — perhaps the "problem" is not big oil or big coal, both of which have discovered there is big money to be made from tax breaks and other subsidies justified in the name of combating carbon. Perhaps the problem is big crusading journalism.


26 posted on 04/03/2006 11:34:27 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: calcowgirl
The legislation will probably result in closure of more power plants in California instead of building additional capacity to meet the needs of a growing population. Frankly, I don't think people in other states should have to build facilities to generate power and transport it to California. California needs to deal realistically with its problems instead of trying to foist them off on other states.
27 posted on 04/03/2006 11:37:38 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: calcowgirl

Sigh.


28 posted on 04/03/2006 11:40:25 PM PDT by FOG724 (http://nationalgrange.org/legislation/phpBB2/index.php)
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To: calcowgirl
Volcanic heat on the oceans' floor is raising water temperatures which increases evaporation rates. Water is much more THE greenhouse gas - compare specific heats of H2O vs CO2. CO2 is nearly meaningless. The Pacific is a hot bed of super heated steam not boiling under pressure and perhaps the Arctic as well. The Pacific's warm moisture is moved to the Arctic via the polar jet stream so Alaska is warmer; cool. Alaska with Scandinavian and Russian ladies? Hot!

News flash; the variable sun is very hot. Even Mars is warmer.

Counting deep ocean black smokers to huge volcanoes hiding in the deep is now ~ a million and counting where researchers look. This news does not match the Big Lie.

Kyoto thinking is silly and destructive. We only should be good wards, but the expanding billions of poor people can not afford the luxury of good stewardship.

Mother Nature shall smite our overpopulation when her time is right. Even the 100 million or more Mexicans/OTMs invading our borders. All other Politburo infomercial propaganda is just that.
29 posted on 04/03/2006 11:53:43 PM PDT by SevenDaysInMay (Dallas radio)
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To: calcowgirl; Carry_Okie; NormsRevenge; Exton1

An excellent article posted by Exton1 -- it's from 1998, but hits the nail on the head and it's applicable today:

Global Warming: The Real Agenda

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1608765/posts


30 posted on 04/04/2006 12:16:30 AM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: calcowgirl

Great find! Thanks for the posting, it made my day!


31 posted on 04/04/2006 1:27:50 AM PDT by Left2Right ("Democracy isn't perfect, but other governments are so much worse")
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Re: Global Warming: The Real Agenda

The article at your link is a very superficial analysis of what the environmental move-mint has in store. It's redistribution all righty, but the real benefits accrue to a select group of the investor class.

32 posted on 04/04/2006 4:55:53 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: FairOpinion
Yes, I can see how consistent it is with conservative principles to allow the Dems to forever control CA and even actively help them do it. (/sarcasm)

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after seeing the lukewarm version of republicanism being served up under the auspices of the Wilsonegger gang along with the New Majorityites and the 19th holers at country clubs, you really want to talk about who is peddling what here, FO?

Your boy is dishing out dough by the bucketsful and collecting it by the same.

Can't wait for McCain to come back and campaign with him at his side.

btw FO, question for ya, do you want to see more rigid air quality standards all over this state?

33 posted on 04/04/2006 9:43:55 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Have you hugged an illegal alien today?)
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To: calcowgirl

Any time a politician mentions global warming or greenhouse gases he may be ignored except as his suggestions impact the wallet.


34 posted on 04/04/2006 9:45:59 AM PDT by RightWhale (Withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty)
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To: FairOpinion
An excellent article posted by Exton1 -- it's from 1998, but hits the nail on the head and it's applicable today:
Global Warming: The Real Agenda
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1608765/posts

And yet some continue to apologize for the agenda being implemented in California.

"Today, California will be a leader in the fight against global warming . . . I say the debate is over. We know the science, we see the threat and we know the time for action is now. Global warming, pollution and the burning of fossil fuels that caused it are threats we see here in California and everywhere around the world . . . We have no choice but to meet this challenge."

        - Arnold Schwarzenegger, speaking at World Environment Day
          San Francisco City Hall, June 1, 2005

Source: San Francisco Chronicle


35 posted on 04/04/2006 1:12:19 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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