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GOP Senators Seek Immigration Compromise
Townhall.com ^ | 4 April 2006 | SUZANNE GAMBOA

Posted on 04/03/2006 7:36:42 PM PDT by Aussie Dasher

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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

Has Arlen checked into what Scottish law has to say about this?


21 posted on 04/03/2006 8:05:42 PM PDT by skip_intro
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To: Altair333
If the other side is about to pass a horrible bill...

...then they'll get royally screwed in November, and they know it. They're dealing from a position of weakness. If only our side would recognize that and act accordingly.

22 posted on 04/03/2006 8:07:54 PM PDT by inquest (If you favor any legal status for illegal aliens, then do not claim to be in favor of secure borders)
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To: Shermy
Over 50% They already passed the House bill.

The House bill,which most voting for it knew very well would never become law, is "good" only with regard to the Senate amnesty bill.

There are not 100 congressmen who would vote for what needs to be done.

23 posted on 04/03/2006 8:08:01 PM PDT by Jim Noble (And you know what I'm talkin' 'bout!)
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To: Shermy
I don't like the "felon" provision BTW.

Neither do most people on our side, including Tancredo. This column of his is quite eye-opening on that. The "felon" provision was a poison pill that was supported by most Democrat Representatives.

24 posted on 04/03/2006 8:12:59 PM PDT by inquest (If you favor any legal status for illegal aliens, then do not claim to be in favor of secure borders)
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To: Aussie Dasher
I would like to remind all stewards of purity and legalese that it could be a Bush's bill with.
25 posted on 04/03/2006 8:18:47 PM PDT by alex
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To: inquest

"If the other side is about to pass a horrible bill...
...then they'll get royally screwed in November, and they know it."

I wish that was true, but I don't think it is. Assume a RINO Congressman votes for amnesty. What are the voter's choices? A RINO or a Dem who also wants amnesty. Plus, the immigration issue will be a moot point after an amnesty bill- the 12 million illegals will suddenly be legal guest workers. Illegal immigration won't be a very big issue for a decade or so. I probably won't vote at all if an amnesty bill passes.


26 posted on 04/03/2006 8:21:09 PM PDT by Altair333 (Please no more 'Bush's fault' posts- the joke is incredibly old)
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To: Aussie Dasher; All

NEWSFLASH TO ALL:

Five years is a REDUCTION of the current TEN YEARS REQUIRED RIGHT NOW for an illegal in this country to apply for a hardship stay. Five years is even less than the six years that was previously required in the 1990's!

I think the REAL polling says very bad news for the senators.

The real translation is SENATORS ARE TRYING TO SAVE AMNESTY PROGRAM!


27 posted on 04/03/2006 8:27:25 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

And where are the provisions in any of these bills to discontinue entitlement and/or gov. assistance to the parasitic invaders?


28 posted on 04/03/2006 8:28:45 PM PDT by Boiling point (If God had not meant for man to eat animals, he wouldn't have made them out of meat!)
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To: Aussie Dasher

And your reasoning is ...?


29 posted on 04/03/2006 8:29:16 PM PDT by ImpBill ("America ... Where are you now?")
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To: Aussie Dasher

Dear GOP,

Whenever something leaks:

1. FIRST, you fix the leak.
2. NEXT, you clean up the mess.
3. THEN, you think about how you can prevent it from happening again.


30 posted on 04/03/2006 8:30:32 PM PDT by SeaBiscuit (God Bless America and all those who preserve and protect this Great Nation.)
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To: inquest

Thanks.

The repubs handed that "felon" provision very poorly.


31 posted on 04/03/2006 8:31:50 PM PDT by Shermy (President Bush, specify what jobs Americans won't do, then we'll talk.)
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To: Aussie Dasher

Well this gives me some hope. Some of those are good sense proposals. That coupled with border protection would make a good bill.


32 posted on 04/03/2006 8:32:16 PM PDT by catholicfreeper
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To: inquest

Excellent article!


33 posted on 04/03/2006 8:33:26 PM PDT by headstamp (Nothing lasts forever, Unless it does.)
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To: catholicfreeper

Oh and on to something really important Florida won the National Champioship. Go SEC


34 posted on 04/03/2006 8:34:57 PM PDT by catholicfreeper
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To: HiJinx

ping


35 posted on 04/03/2006 8:34:59 PM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: Shermy

Yes, perhaps, except recent history over Dubai proves otherwise. You can scrap the idea they are afraid to oppose Bush. And, btw, I despise what they did over Dubai, but as an example it holds up very well against your theory.

If I want to wear rose colored glasses I take this story at face value.

At face value it indicates the amnesty boosters are having trouble getting enough Reps onboard for Specter/McCain/Kennedy's collaborative efforts that they are being forced to give somewhat on border security concerns/English mandated and so forth in the proposals to lure a few more votes their way. This could mean calls to them are working, as well the "500,000" march hurt their cause.

Cynically, I fall in line with what another suggested. It's similiar to what they did with ANWR. The House played the bad guy while the Senate pretended it had enough votes for passage. IMO, it was an orchetrated stunt.

Until shown otherwise, IMO, the House directly at risk in district elections went hardline knowing the Senate would never fall in line. The Senate takes the opposite approach and appears completely irresponsible. In the end they 'concede' a few points in the Senate, and the House "claims" victory because without their hardline approach nothing would have been done. The Senate claims victory because they got their precious blessing on illegals.

Or so, imo, is their plan if they can fool enough people.

In the end amnesty happens. The only question is how much pro-border enforcement proponents get out of this scheme. I'm not hopeful.



36 posted on 04/03/2006 8:40:39 PM PDT by Soul Seeker ("The Republican Party is now principally moderate, if not liberal!" Arlen Specter (R-Pa))
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To: DevSix

Thank God someone is thinking. I been screaming that the votes to "deport them all" were not there. What will be interesting to see is what the Dems do. I am talking about individual dems. Besides a few they have been silent it seems. A few might break and endorse a good bill so it doesnt hurt them come election time. That would negate the hard core conservatives that are yelling no compromise. Of course I expect that the Dem leadership would be infuriated but I don't think they can hold a party line vote on this if a decent proposal comes down that has security and a reasonable guest worker program.


37 posted on 04/03/2006 8:43:54 PM PDT by catholicfreeper
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To: Aussie Dasher

GOP Senators Seek Immigration Compromise ... followed by minority status.


38 posted on 04/03/2006 8:43:58 PM PDT by Reagan Man (Secure our borders;punish employers who hire illegals;stop all welfare to illegals)
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To: Aussie Dasher; 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; ...


Compromise Ping!

In my line of work, 'compromise' is a very bad word.

39 posted on 04/03/2006 8:45:53 PM PDT by HiJinx (~ www.proudpatriots.org ~ Serving Those Who Serve Us ~ Operation Easter/Passover ~)
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To: Aussie Dasher
This will be good...

Great if one happens to be a d@mn yankee. "Send them to Texas". How about we have YOU deal with them? You organize your local LEO round them up, pay for the bus, and deport them. Texas will never bear the brunt of Yankee ignorance. Since y'all know how to do everything so well, YOU pay for it. Or p*ss off, and build your own wall. Start with New Jersey. And have a nice day.

40 posted on 04/03/2006 8:49:22 PM PDT by ARealMothersSonForever (Political troglodyte with a partisan axe to grind)
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