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To: Shalom Israel
"Infrastructure" is, at least in this thread, a euphemism for "socialism."

Thou hast spoken. The street upon which you walked today is "socialism." Water, sewer, power, and light are "socialism." Socialist countries and capitalistic countries both have "infrastructure." Infrastructure is an ideologically neutral term, since it can be provided by the government, or by private means. Either way, it has to be paid for; by taxes, or by user fees. A free people voting to tax themselves to build infrastructure, which then all can use, hardly qualifies as "socialism." Or they may vote to use that most capitalist of all funding mechanisms: a bond issue by which capitalists lend money to governmental entities in exchange for a fair return.

OK, as near as I can tell you're an out-and-out socialist....Shine your light on this ignorant and most humble servant

For me to shine a light upon you, for free, would indeed make me closer to a socialist. You have my leave to remain in humble circumstances and as ignorant as you please.

100 posted on 04/03/2006 8:46:22 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (The GOP needs a fighting Pope to maintain the Faith. Not Mr. Rogers.)
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To: Kenny Bunk
Thou hast spoken. The street upon which you walked today is "socialism." Water, sewer, power, and light are "socialism." Socialist countries and capitalistic countries both have "infrastructure."

You are correct: every nation in the world has socialist elements in its economy.

Infrastructure is an ideologically neutral term, since it can be provided by the government, or by private means.

Red herring: it could be, but it never is. You just finished mocking the very thought that "infrastructure" would be paid for by any but public means. Don't be coy.

A free people voting to tax themselves to build infrastructure, which then all can use, hardly qualifies as "socialism."

The usual delusion: they aren't voting to tax themselves; they're voting to tax the unwilling. If it's their wish to pony up their own money, no vote is required. A vote is required because they intend to pony up someone else's money, by force.

You have my leave to remain in humble circumstances and as ignorant as you please.

At least you're a cute socialist who uses archaic English.

107 posted on 04/04/2006 2:30:34 AM PDT by Shalom Israel (Pray for the Peace of Jerusalem.)
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