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Mexico is Rich- Mexican wealthy play American taxpayers for suckers
http://www.limitstogrowth.org/ ^ | 2005 | Brenda Walker

Posted on 04/03/2006 12:16:03 PM PDT by Rockitz

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To: Rockitz

These days everything I hear seems to make me angry.


21 posted on 04/03/2006 12:46:09 PM PDT by mikethevike (We could use a little global warming up here in MN)
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To: Rockitz
This is not a conservative/socialist issue...

Then why bellyache that they can "afford" lots of socialist programs, as if it's a problem that they don't implement them? Hypocritical.

The issue is whether they should be allowed to illegally export their poor to other countries?

That's an abuse of the word "export", and it presupposes a fallacy: is it in fact possible to "export" the poor of a country? Is it even something one would want to do, were it even possible? When the last poor person is "exported", who cleans the septic tanks and picks up the trash?

Not to mention that it's complete balderdash: Fox loves illegals not because it reduces the number of poor people, but because it generates an inflow of wealth into Mexico, as these illegals start sending checks home to Momma. To suggest that immigration is all about eliminating the dregs of society is silly when we already know that's false.

If they keep all of their citizens within their borders, they can tax themselves however they damn well please.

I'm against illegal immigration, but I'm for legal immigration. So I suspect we won't see eye-to-eye on that, either. Unsurprisingly, I don't wish socialism on the Mexicans. I don't even wish it on the Arabs, and I don't like Arabs.

22 posted on 04/03/2006 12:46:12 PM PDT by Shalom Israel (Pray for the Peace of Jerusalem.)
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To: Cyropaedia
Mexico under the notorious PRI has had a quasi-socialist government to begin with. They may as well put taxes to good use rather than forcing us deal with its poor.

That sentence makes no sense. It's on par with, "The US already destroyed property rights in Kelo v. New London, so they may as well nationalize all the land in the country." Or maybe, "Police have killed innocent Americans before, so they might as well go ahead and exterminate everybody."

Comprende...??

I'm afraid one can never comprehend nonsense.

23 posted on 04/03/2006 12:48:42 PM PDT by Shalom Israel (Pray for the Peace of Jerusalem.)
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To: Safetgiver
I personally do not mind paying taxes for roads, Armed forces or emergency services.

I wouldn't mind it much, either, because if that's all I paid for it would lower my tax bill below the threshold of worrying about it. I long for that day, so we can debate whether even more things can be privatized, like roads and emergency services.

24 posted on 04/03/2006 12:50:24 PM PDT by Shalom Israel (Pray for the Peace of Jerusalem.)
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To: ncountylee

Well, one good thing would come of it, they'd break the socialist system.


25 posted on 04/03/2006 12:51:38 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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To: Shalom Israel
You're wrong...the Mexican elite do want the poor out of their country. Period. If Mexico wants to develop a thriving, stable economy they have to build it from within.
26 posted on 04/03/2006 12:52:05 PM PDT by Cyropaedia ("Virtue cannot separate itself from reality without becoming a principal of evil...".)
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To: Rockitz
The problem is not Mexicans it is the Mexican government. It has been a failed state for decades. Rather than permit our country to be the repository for their problems, annex Mexico!

Sounds crazy and weird but with an arrangement not dissimilar from Puerto Rico, Mexico could be a successful state.

27 posted on 04/03/2006 12:54:51 PM PDT by shrinkermd
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To: Cyropaedia
You're wrong...the Mexican elite do want the poor out of their country. Period.

Because they want the fun of driving the garbage trucks themselves, period?

If Mexico wants to develop a thriving, stable economy they have to build it from within.

If they want a stable, thriving economy they need to set the people free, on the one hand, and inculcate a strong self-defense ethic and armed populace, on the other. They're just as unready for freedom as the US is, but it's worth a shot.

28 posted on 04/03/2006 12:55:18 PM PDT by Shalom Israel (Pray for the Peace of Jerusalem.)
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To: Mark
I don't think we need to ask the question. We need to conquer Mexico ot end their invasion before they conquer us.

I took my kids down to Ixtapa over the holidays a few years ago. I heard it was Mexico's west coast version of Cancun. We stayed at one of the top hotels and I was surprised to see the majority of the guests were Mexicans.

29 posted on 04/03/2006 12:55:22 PM PDT by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington (Manifest Destiny, Chapter 2: Move our southern border further south.)
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To: HiJinx; NormsRevenge; doug from upland

Ping away!


30 posted on 04/03/2006 12:56:36 PM PDT by Rockitz (Follow the money and you'll find the truth.)
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To: Rockitz

Mexico sounds primed for a Chavez type hard left wing govt. Just what we need on our southern border. Then again maybe we would finally deploy the military and hermetically seal the border.


31 posted on 04/03/2006 12:57:29 PM PDT by conservativewasp (Liberals lie for sport and hate our country.)
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To: Rockitz

now lemme see if I got this right..rich Mexicans invite our president and senators down to Mexico..where they are browbeaten for their constitituents orneriness about the border..........


32 posted on 04/03/2006 12:58:15 PM PDT by mo
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To: PeoplesRepublicOfWashington

The purpose of the question is to wake up Vincente- to seal his border with us. Step 2 would be to allow everyone into our country as temporary guests- even offer pay incentives to teachers of English- Doctors- Firemen- all to destroy their tax base. Finally give Vincente a handful of trinkets and a temporary job as advisor to the mayor of Catalina Island.


33 posted on 04/03/2006 1:02:25 PM PDT by Mark (Rap is to music as etch-a-sketch is to fine art.)
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To: Rockitz

This is freaking infuriating!


34 posted on 04/03/2006 1:04:13 PM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: Shalom Israel

Mexico already has more or less a socialist government. The difference is that we're the ones providing the social benefits. This is really nothing more than wealth redistribution on an international scale.

The elitist class system in Mexico does need to go. We're the pressure relief valve. There's a reason why Mexico doesn't want us to build a wall. The few in power don't want their own brown rabble, as they see them, to fight for their rights. They would rather them be here fighting for non-existent rights.


35 posted on 04/03/2006 1:09:07 PM PDT by kenth
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To: Shalom Israel
I can't believe the shallowness of your arguments,....oh wait a minute you're a Losertarian. OK...that that explains it. Garbage truck drivers as part of waste desposal systems can make good money. So that argument is false. You don't need to have massive poverty just so you can have people run the waste collecting.

If they want a stable, thriving economy they need to set the people free, on the one hand, and inculcate a strong self-defense ethic and armed populace, on the other. They're just as unready for freedom as the US is, but it's worth a shot.

NO, Mexico needs to reform itself from within rather than trying to export their problems. Again, Mexico is quasi-socialist just as Canada is but at least Canada takes care of its poor and doesn't have them flooding into U.S. cities.

36 posted on 04/03/2006 1:09:18 PM PDT by Cyropaedia ("Virtue cannot separate itself from reality without becoming a principal of evil...".)
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To: litehaus; Rockitz
Read somewhere that 13/17(?) families run Mexico, own most it etc etc

I was told something along those lines when I travelled Mexico in the 70s.

MEXICO = The SAUDI ARABIA of the Western Hemisphere.

37 posted on 04/03/2006 1:10:55 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Walk softly, carry a big stick... and don't forget to connect the dots ...)
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To: doug from upland

One of the things I'm proud of in this country is that we take care of our own- maybe too well in some cases. Mexico and most of Latin America, for that matter, have a two class system- the ultra-rich and the dirt poor with no middle class. Pretty soon the US won't have a middle class.


38 posted on 04/03/2006 1:12:29 PM PDT by Rockitz (Follow the money and you'll find the truth.)
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To: satchmodog9
"already p.o.ed. Always looking for new reasons."

Yeppers, add this one to the fire in my belly also. (now where's that Gaviscon)

/jasper

39 posted on 04/03/2006 1:12:53 PM PDT by Jasper (Stand Fast, Craigellachie !)
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To: Rockitz

Outraged, and not surprised. Mexico is a nation of thieves.


40 posted on 04/03/2006 1:13:08 PM PDT by hershey
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