Posted on 04/03/2006 11:04:05 AM PDT by Conservative Coulter Fan
"Newt gave us 94 and you give him the back of your hand? Shame on you.
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Yes, he did, and I'm proud of him for doing that. However, he made some serious mistakes with his personal life. He's now on wife #3. The first two, he divorced when he found out they were ill.
His affairs while married to the first two are public knowledge.
I don't know about you, but I consider a candidate's personal ethics when I think about them running for high office. That's especially true of the Presidency.
This sordid marriage history on Newt's part is going to alienate a WHOLE LOT of religious conservatives. It alienates me.
You talked about his "cute wife." That "cute wife" is probably his biggest liability, because everytime she is seen, the media will remind everyone that Newt's a cad.
Yes, he's a good conservative, and good for him for that. He's still a cad, and I DO consider personal ethics in candidates.
Surely you can come up with someone without those personal flaws. Even my mother, who has never voted for any Democrat, would vote for anyone other than Newt. She has said as much to me.
His is not running for the office of big daddy, his is running for the office of President of the USA. Personally I don't care who he sleeps with, I don't care if he drinks, smokes or chases skirts. He's knows how to govern as a conservative, he's proven he can do the job far better then the "good husbands/fathers". I care about the country, and Newt can be counted on to do that is best for the country.
But if yall nominate another unknown good husband/father cause he's electable, I can garrentee you he will not be elected. We conservative have had it "compassion" for everyone but US citizens. I don't what a kinder, gentender government I want one that obeys the constitution.
Government is bigger, spending is higher, and Washington is more powerful.
... Bushs insistence on absolute, unquestioning loyalty, which stifles honest criticism and
creates a cult of personality around him.
The administration and its supporters routinely denounce critics as partisans and even traitors.
...Bushs conservative image bears no relation to his actions.
Bush, Bartlett believes, is likely to be seen as another Richard Nixon
Good points, however:
Its unfortunate to compare Bush to Nexon -- one of the best Presidents this nation ever had.
Nixon, one of the best? Please...you must be joking..
"His is not running for the office of big daddy, his is running for the office of President of the USA. Personally I don't care who he sleeps with, I don't care if he drinks, smokes or chases skirts."
What part of Newt's infatuation with Futureshock and admiration for FDR is conservative?
"What part of Newt's infatuation with Futureshock and admiration for FDR is conservative?"
I have said as much myself on other occasions, and I surely want you to be right.
Sadly, though, most of our criticisms of Bush would apply even more to the crowd of pols now positioning themselves for a run. I am so tired of Repubs who either have no principles, or think that the way to reach out to Democrats is to compromise on those principles.
I like Bush as a man, primarily because he does have principles, at least on a personal level. When he speaks and acts from principle, the man shines. Unfortunately, on too many occasions, he tries to split the difference with his enemies, and in some cases his core principles are to the left of mine.
His clumsiness over immigration is an example. His multiple attempts to reach out to Kennedy and company are others.
Still, I know what his core values are, even when I don't like them. Too many of the Repubs running to replace him are to his left, or seem very flexible in their beliefs. Bush uses Rove to tell him how to outfox his enemies. Most of the guys running against him would use their "Rove" to tell them what their principles ought to be.
So, while I've been proud of Bush on some levels, and disappointed on others, I am really worried when I look at the crop of hopefuls out there. They seem more centrist and less principled than he. If you're right, such a stance is probably not electable, and if they are elected, all we've done is elect a Democrat in Repub's clothing.
Some would say thats what we already have, and in some ways they are right. Still, I would take Bush a thousand times if the choice is insane, as in Gore (or maybe McCain) or treasonous (as in, well, you know who). I am so thankful neither of those men will ever get any more power than they have already had. It shocks me still that an insane man would very nearly beat someone who isn't insane, and a man who committed treason would very nearly beat someone who never committed treason and never would. Thats disturbing, you have to admit.
I want a president who believes in the Constitution, and who will defend the country, and I want a man with enough moral fortitude to stand up to the pounding he is sure to take. And I want "bold".
"Most of the guys running against him" should be "most of the guys running to replace him..."
"Nixon, one of the best? Please...you must be joking.."
No, I'm not!
They may both go down as tainted, but:
Even Nixon's enemies usually admit he(Nixon)was good in foreign policy.
He also got us out of a war that he inherited(that President Johnson -- also from 'Texas'-- escalated!)
They may both go down in history as tainted, but I don't think the analogy can be taken too much further.
I think Nixon got a raw deal.
Finished the book "Impostor" that Bartlett wrote about a week ago. Devastating and right on target.
Have you any idea how many great leaders cheated on thier wifes or were otherwise unfit by your standards?
Never read FuteShock, and thers was a great deal to admire in FDR. FDR was a great war time president.
Even the editors of National Review admit, if a politician agreed with their suggestions 100% of the time, he'll get about 18% of the vote.
Nixon's domestic policies were very liberal.
"The base has left the building."
Some because the stench was too much or they got kicked out.
"Nixon's domestic policies were very liberal."
Well, in concession: his attempt at price control in the 70's WAS a complete flop -- fiasco might be a better word!
Still, I think his achievements in the arena of foreign policy more than counter balance his mistakes.
Blah, blah, blah.
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