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To: TXnMA; doug from upland
The "underlying plot of OKC is not crystal clear to begin with", because there has been a complex -- and largely successful -- coverup.

I am a PROPONENT of the concept that someone (middleeasterners) were involved in OKC besides McVeigh. My thought here was that SOMEONE ON FR, if anywhere, could explain what THEY THOUGHT or SUSPECTED had happened in a short paragraph.

Something like: "Saddam, motivated by XYZ, wanted to strike the US, so he linked up with McVeigh and provided him with ABC, etc."

Instead TXnMA complain that -I- use bad logic (bad logic in a question, forcryingoutlioud!!!,) Peach scolds me for not reading "all the links," and DFU, in an honest response to my request for "a clear, concise, convincing, bite-size argument as to what "really" happened"....sends me 2,199 words (counted them in word) from a continuously updated blog (update I, Update II, etc, link, link, link.)

I want to have an argument that can be spread easily and simply to grandparents and friends who are not "FR-quality."

But if I can't get anything like that here, it seems clear that it doesn't exist.

DFU, I thank you for your post, of course, but I'm going to try to summarize that link and see if you think I've distilled it correctly.

254 posted on 04/03/2006 4:49:08 PM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: sam_paine

When you summarize it, share the summary with us.


257 posted on 04/03/2006 5:00:05 PM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: sam_paine

I didn't realize that you wanted a summary for distribution. Some people here probably thought you were just being lazy and didn't want to read the info. :) Doing a summary will be helpful for others who don't have the time for the massive amount of info in this case.


260 posted on 04/03/2006 5:02:53 PM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: sam_paine; doug from upland; truthaboveall; Peach; backhoe
"My thought here was that SOMEONE ON FR, if anywhere, could explain what THEY THOUGHT or SUSPECTED had happened in a short paragraph. "

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Sam_Paine, we all share your frustration that the OKC picture is not crystal clear -- even though several of us have spent years trying to make sense of it.

I, for one, specifically avoided the questions of "who?" and "why?", and left investigation of those to others while I concentrated on the "what happened?" and "how?". Even then, I was not able (with the avaiable evidence -- not sequestered or destroyed by Federal agencies) to arrive at a single, unequivocal conclusion.

What I did not start with, but was unable to avoid developing as I studied all the evidence, was the firm conclusion that the DOJ, BATF and FBI (at least) behaved very badly and dishonestly re the evidence.

I'll venture to say that everyone who has investigated the OKC bombing at length will agree with this: Anyone who starts with the OKC bombing and investigates in any direction soon finds themselves facing some very strange and frightening people -- and organizations.

Sorry, but, AFAIK, if you want a simple answer, you'll just have to dig it out for yourself. Just be ready to overcome many formidable obstacles!

Oh, and -- if you are successful -- please share the results with all of the rest of us... < no sarcasam -- at all -- intended>

265 posted on 04/03/2006 5:20:10 PM PDT by TXnMA
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