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To: Orca

Thanks, Generals and attaches get the Golden treament to some degree it sounds. I have a USAF nephew in law at
Andrews.

Not sure exactly what he does but he's around big birds.

re: VIPs.. Congressman and such are unlikey to ride these I would take it.


230 posted on 04/03/2006 10:43:41 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Have you hugged an illegal alien today?)
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To: NormsRevenge
VIPs.. Congressman and such are unlikey to ride these I would take it.

Nope, Congressmen and civilian VIP's were pretty regular passengers, especially on trips to Europe. I didn't begrudge them the ride, but it did irritate me when one VIP took up the whole bunk room (leaving one bunk completely unused) for the sake of his privacy. Typically we took off late at night so as to arrive in Europe during daylight hours. There was no way you could sleep all day prior to takeoff. That meant by the time of your arrival in Europe you may have only had a small amount of sleep scrunched up in a chair while the VIP snoozed in his "private cabin." Then you have to be very alert for landing, maybe doing an approach to low minimums, deciphering instructions from German accented controllers, etc.

I remember one mission where we were looking forward to a 24 hour crew-duty day and we lost both bunk rooms, one for each VIP. I got into a shouting match with the Dover command post and refused to take the mission under those circumstances. The command post finally backed down and put both VIP's in a single bunk room. That left one for us. Then we took off. We arrived at out destination tired, but safe.

235 posted on 04/03/2006 11:11:04 AM PDT by Orca
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