[cripplecreek]

It's been about 7 years for me and I quit cold turkey too. That'll teach them to tell me I can't quit drinking. I'm stubborn.

[bill1952]

Nah. - you are tenacious.

Tenacity is a virtue. - tenacity got Washington through Valley Forge.

Stubbornness is fault. It is the stubborn defense of a liberal that allows him to cling to his beliefs and to discount rational thought in the face of all evidence to the contrary.

Yep.