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To: NCSteve; B4Ranch; Reagan Man
I guess that would explain why they let him make a speech on Friday in which he used the Marxist code phrase, "social justice." If this is the new strategy, it ought to get quite interesting. Maybe a lot of people on the right will finally wake up.

I truly hope you're right. But truth be told, I fear that a deep slumber has befallen much of our countrymen, and that they could care less about the gathering threat of Communism.

Some of them would refuse to acknowledge its existence, if a proposal came down the pike to formally declare the U.S. a communist state was presented in a pretty package, i.e., under a PC-label 'New Domestic Fairness Initiative' or some such euphemism. Particularly if it came as a 'good bill' from this administration, they would sing hosannas, and praise it to the stars, and say how wonderful it is. How Christian it must be.

And I have to remark from the discourse of this thread that there has been a serious descent into degradation. A painful one to witness if the provocateuer is assumed to be arguing in sincerity. Which I am not inclined to doubt. This provocateuer has manifested the thickest set of scales over their eyes I have ever witnessed among those asserting their christian identity... They rather suddenly popped out of nowhere to launch a set of tirades and rants against conservatives of long-standing and uprightness here. The provocateuer proceeded to make judgmental, ignorant accusations without basis.

Constantly striving contentiously on behalf of the administration...and calling those conservatives who iterate truth, after truth, after truth...or for merely accurately quote the administration... calling into question its conservative credentials ..."lies", and the messengers "liars"...

The provocateuer could not deny that the Administration has not stopped or slowed down the funding of Planned Parenthood. That federal funding of abortions continues.

But then it gets worse.

They confuse and mistake healthy troop reverence for a properly respectful commander-in-chief, as unswerving admiration for his national defense issue acumen.

That is simply not so.

The provocateuers could not debate any of the very serious defense issues, where the administration has arguably been neglectful at the strategic levels...from scoffing at and slighting border security, to embracing a globalist agenda that conflicts with God's plan for man being divided amongst nations* (biblical reference below), to seriously eroding our strategic deterrent. These are facts. No amount of lip service by administration officers gain-saying, can change those facts of history, or the on-the-ground situational reality.

We conservatives have clucked and complained, but, ultimately there was not presented an alternative in either 2000 or 2004 that would keep the even graver national defense mismangement of the democrats from taking power. As Hugh Hewitt has accurately said, it's all about national security for the Republicans to keep its electoral base.

But there appears to be a disconnect from the entirety of its national security obligations, which it is oathe-bound to perform, in our Administration.

A good illustration is the messianic idealism by the administration to unilaterally...and dangerously... lower our nuclear stockpile. Eliminating our counterforce capabilities (necessary to dissuade those with a war-winning strategic doctrine) with unilateral cuts [ This administration has decommissioned all 100 MX missiles, six trident subs, 550 Minuteman III's...all critical to deter a pre-emptive attack].

These unilataral cuts were not and are not reciprocated by the Russians who signed the Treaty of Moscow with the President just four years ago. [ The Russians are keeping their arsenal of first-strike SS-18's at least until 2017 thank you very much, while also deploying the new mobile MX-equivalent but with MARV capability and stealth to boot, the Topol-M ]

Nor does such unilateral generosity appear to forestall proliferation elsewhere either for that matter as we witness in North Korea and Iran...all with the covert backing of China.

And we're spending $16 billion annually at the Dept. of Energy to accomplish this unilateral self-mutilation. This is squandry when considering that our tactical armed forces are also stretched to a serious degree... and a lot of defense recapitalization is frankly going by the way side unfunded. They plan to cut another two aircraft carriers. The F-22 will be seriously under-deployed...by more than two-thirds from what the AirForce called for when it was first planned. And our F-15s are now that much older, and obsolete in relative terms. Now we have even more high-tech foes than when it was called for. The F-15 now loses its dogfights with its Russian export-model counterpart...which is widely being sold to other nations.

The world has not stayed still...and we have decommissioned without adequate replacement our F-14 naval air superiority fighters, nor are we ready to deal with technological surprises...as the fleet continues to shrink. [ The Yakhont ssm, or the Skval torpedo for example ]

And the Chinese are busy deploying major strategic missile forces...ultra-quiet SLBMs, long-range MIRV missiles utilizing our W-88 warhead design they stole, and on and on. And nothing, at least at a strategic funding level, and fairly little at the diplomatic-level is pursued to end this dangerous totalitarian regime.

So the provocateuers just called it all lies. One can visualize them trying to put their hands over their ears, and over their eyes...and stamp their feet in petulance. I will remind them, and not only them, but myself, to be conversant with Exodus 20:16. "Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour."

Nor do some of those so striving so vociferously seem to be cautious of Jesus's commandment in Matthew 7:

1. Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
3. And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
4. Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
5. Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

Finally, some of those striving against the conservatives here seem to be rather taken up with a form of proclaimed piety but then strikingly demonstrating their lack of humility. And as we all know, that is the sign of a false prophet...their inner ravening wolves. Unfeigned love demonstrates real humility to God and their fellow Man, this is the hallmark of grace we all strive for.

I don't doubt that this person is sincere, although clearly freighted with mistakes, misconceptions, and a misplaced zeal that have led them astray, and quenching the true still small voice.

We Freepers are mostly here out of a desire for public discourse with civility to learn of our government, and society...and of our enemies. And know the truth. No matter how distasteful that can sometimes be. This provocateuer I allude to has commenced a war of insult and offense. I can only pray that I was not the occasion by which this person, whom I don't know, fell. And that I not lose place by virtue of my own pride. For such sins I repent truly, and pray for foregiveness...and the Lord's healing.

For I pray that we all can be in our place of prayer here as well as throughout our lives, not seeking vengeance...when it is the Lord's place to enact such...that I can discard the filthy rags of my own self-righteousness...and lean on Jesus for all aid and understanding of those things I don't understand. And maybe, just maybe, the Lord can still use me to help soften hearts so he can recover these wayward sheep, mold and shape them after his own son's image.

And I will pray for such as the provocateuers here, that they too can be healed from their affliction, and share in the blessing of coming together onto God, and receiving rest:

Matthew 11
28. Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
29. Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
30. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.

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*Genesis 11:
6. And the Lord said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do.
7. Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech.
8. So the Lord scattered them abroad from thence upon the face of all the earth: and they left off to build the city.
9. Therefore is the name of it called Babel; because the Lord did there confound the language of all the earth: and from thence did the Lord scatter them abroad upon the face of all the earth.

179 posted on 04/03/2006 10:56:12 AM PDT by Paul Ross (Hitting bullets with bullets successfully for 35 years!)
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To: Paul Ross


I have to take issue with the nuclear strategy stuff; there's really no need for the United States to have as large a stockpile as it has.

Classic deterrence theory says you need to be able to kill 25% of the enemy's population and destroy 50% of its industrial base to prevent him from even thinking about bombing you. Going off that standard, we can deter even Russia, who has thousands of missiles, with only one of our submarines.

Bush is right to get rid of land-based ICBMs like the Peacekeepers; there's no reason to make our land a nuclear target unnecessarily when we can maintain our deterrent force in easily hidden (and almost completely undetectable) submarines.


227 posted on 04/06/2006 10:16:01 AM PDT by justinellis329
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