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Israel is not Muslim land - it was given to Abraham - and handed down to his son, Isaac. But .. the bastard son, Ishmael, believes he deserves the inheritance (because he was born before Isaac) - and thus the fight over the land which God gave to Abraham. This is a 4,000 yr old land dispute between half-brothers, each claiming a right to the land. I'm siding with Isaac.

15 posted on 04/02/2006 1:14:31 PM PDT by CyberAnt (Democrats/Old Media: "controversy, crap and confusion" -- Amen!)
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16 posted on 04/02/2006 2:34:37 PM PDT by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 23-28)
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Gees, Israel is in the middle of all those Muslim nations. It is amazing they are still around.


18 posted on 04/02/2006 3:07:31 PM PDT by Ptarmigan (Proud bunny hater and killer)
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To: CyberAnt

There are Islamic scholars that will admit that before Mohammed, the Arab people believed that they descended from someone other than Ishmael.

I forget his name. I'll have to page through the "The Evidence Bible" again.


20 posted on 04/02/2006 4:14:45 PM PDT by ROTB (Our Constitution ... only for a moral and religious people... -- John Adams, October 11, 1798)
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To: CyberAnt

Hi CyberAnt,

The Koran states that Abraham was to sacrifice "Ishmael" while the Bible states Abraham was to sacrifice "Isaac". The Bible makes clear that the decendents of Ishmael would be a war-like people, constantly stirred up. That accounts very well for much of Islamic history.

Of course, the Bible also clearly states that the ONLY way to heaven is through Jesus Christ. The Koran states that God does NOT have a son and that Jesus, while a good man and prophet, DID NOT DIE on the cross. That completely flies in the face of Christianity. I don't believe God contradicts Himself.

One last thought...the Bible says "You will know them by their fruit", i.e. what they've done, what they're doing to further God's cause. What does Islam have to show?

Brian


25 posted on 04/03/2006 8:15:21 AM PDT by Kharis13
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To: CyberAnt

It is amazing that these people go ballistic over the tiny little strip of land (in red on your map) when they have the lion's share of all the land in that area. As Zola Levitt once said, look at a map of the Middle East and see how little Israel is and how big the rest of the M.E. is and you'll see a history of the M.E. in a nutshell.

They start a war with Israel; the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob allows Israel to win it and then the attackers want their ex-land to be returned to them . . which Israel has in large part done. . but, even that isn't enough.


29 posted on 11/25/2006 4:48:49 PM PST by Twinkie (SEE MIA T. ARTICLES OF FORBIDDEN INFORMATION . . . . .IF YOU DARE . . .)
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