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To: John Filson
"Why do you rush to its defense when its ideas are so poisonous?"

My argument is that there is no such thing as "its ideas". The CFR is not a policy making organization. It doesn't have ideas. It has members. Members with an incredibly wide divergence of opinion on almost every issue regarding foreign affairs. That this concept can be so impossible for so many to understand is a clear indication that most folks take their information from whackjob conspiracy sites and just assume it is true. Then, when presented with very clear and irrefutable facts to the contrary, they claim there is some sort of secret cover up of the truth. There is nothing secret about the CFR. It doesn't create or advocate any policy. It simply provides a forum for some of the world's foremost foreign affairs experts to publish their opinions. If you want to critique the ideas of some of its members, that is wonderful. And highly encouraged. (In fact, some of the most interesting articles found in the CFR's Foreign Affairs journal are articles from members who disagree with each other.) But to pummel any of its members for articles written by other members, or to claim the CFR pushes any policy or agenda is just gross ignorance. That is the point I am making, but it is just sailing right over the heads of people more interested in posting spam and Spanish obscenities than discussing facts.

142 posted on 04/06/2006 8:10:44 PM PDT by Rokke
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To: Rokke
Why aren't you more worried about what the ideas are doing to America than anything else?
145 posted on 04/06/2006 8:11:57 PM PDT by John Filson
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To: Rokke

Fact?

Fact is the RINOs and Bush who will sign it if it gets thru the House are pushing to make this a predominately Mexican or Central American nation founded largely by illegals once you factor in anchor families and the floodgates this will open. Some expect over 100 million poverty refugees in here in the next generation. Right now we are estimated up to 3 million per year. In the 1960s, it was maybe 20 thousand.

They think we should absorb all the world's poor simply becasue they lack the balls to try to stop it.

Our culture as we know it will be over. Like the Visigoths or Saxons or Moors....just not many on horseback carrying sabers..lol...the tides of population will crush us.

Those are our facts. You are a fool to ignore them or this is exactly what you want.

There are some minority FReepers here who blow very loud that anyone who opposes this is a bigot but the dilution of the majority culture in America is exactly what they want. So who is the bigot then?

You Rokke are to the left on nearly every hot topic issue I see you post on here. Aren't you some former govt aparatchik yourself?

But...to be fair....unlike the other collaborators you are still here fighting for your cause....most of the others are lying low.

I think the Frist capitulation was more than they ever dreamed possible...a fantasy come true


151 posted on 04/06/2006 8:24:25 PM PDT by wardaddy (A DAY THAT WILL LIVE IN INFAMY......THROW THE BASTARDS OUT...!!!!)
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