Posted on 04/02/2006 5:43:00 AM PDT by Liz
A roiling sea of immigrants - many of them in the country illegally - and their supporters poured across the Brooklyn Bridge and into Manhattan yesterday to protest what they call "oppressive" reform measures currently under consideration in Congress.
Marchers, waving flags from Mexico, Colombia, Honduras and El Salvador, chanted and carried signs recalling America's roots during the demonstration, organized by state Sen. Ruben Diaz, a Bronx Democrat and native of Puerto Rico.
"That flag on top of the Brooklyn Bridge is symbolic because all these other flags, all these other nations, are covered by the USA," declared Ismael Claudio, 35, also a native Puerto Rican and therefore a U.S. citizen.
In the House, legislation already has passed that would set penalties for anyone who knowingly assists or encourages an illegal immigrant to remain in the country.
The Senate may adopt a broader bill that would be less punitive, create a guest-worker program and open a path to citizenship for the estimated 11M immigrants now in the country without proper papers.
As they trekked over the bridge, demonstrators carried signs proclaiming, "Did the pilgrims need green cards?"
Patricia Urgules, 35, of Ecuador, said......"I came here in search of the American Dream - the dream to be free, to be treated equally," she said. "We only ask for those basic principles this country was founded on."
Construction worker Eduardo Segundo, 40, of Harlem, scoffs at the notion, mentioned by Mayor Bloomberg last week, of a wall on the U.S.-Mexican border.
He recalled sneaking across the border 12 years ago - and said 20 of his and his wife's relatives now live in the United States. ".....The wall that they build will not work. People will just figure out a way to cross."
(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...
Give them $5,000 vouchers at the border of their choice, there see we've already saved $180 Billion. If they leave voluntarily they can keep what they can carry.
-As they trekked over the bridge, demonstrators carried signs proclaiming, "Did the pilgrims need green cards?"-
Can we start throwing Plymouth rocks at these protestors?
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Pilgrims, my Aunt Tilly.
That was the most annoying comment, was it not?
Comparing themselves to the pilgrims who endured untold hardships to escape persecution and found a new nation from nothing.
These illegal parasites squat on our land and extort all the tax-paid benefits they can out of the US government-----benefits hard-working Americans are paying for through the sweat of their brows.
I like the rhyme and the sentiment, but that's a bit of an understatement.
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Oops. Time to switch to decaf.
If ICE puts them on busses and takes them SOUTH of the HIGH WALL we need to have in place, that has to cost much less than:
free hospital expenses when the first anchor baby is born in USA 13 hours after they came across the border.
13 years of free education, k-12 at taxpayer expense for all those anchor babies.
Untold trips to the same hospital emergency room for whatever for the next 18 years or more for each of those babies born here, plus themselves.
Police time and jail and prison space for the trouble any and all members of the family get into after they arrived north of their border.
Uninsured motorist car insurance- which here in Nevada is the highest I have EVER paid.
You know the list.
You just are not projecting it out for the number of children born here and all the costs for a long time into future VS a bus ticket.
It's a no-brainer, and you know it. Unless you were under the teacher union members for the last 2 decades and didn't learn any math, which may have happened.
As a starting point for estimation, TK's cost for deporting all the illegal aliens is $240 billion.
$20,000 per illegal? What's he proposing? Lear jets and caviar?""
That's a Kennedy for you- specially Teddy.
It's the only way he knows how to be transported, so that is his only frame of reference.
How about we make Teddy a special witness to these busloads of illegals being taken back across the border? It might give him an eyeful.
Anyone explained what the odd running lights ( usually red or blue, usually the windsheild washer spigots, but sometimes embedded in grilles or bumpers ) on the vehicles means
The Pilgrim thing made me mad, too. The Pilgrims didn't come to the U.S.A.
The illegal aliens did come here, and there are laws against that which must be enforced. I am weary of dealing with a whole bunch of people who think it is their right to be here, despite our country's laws against it.
It really burns me up that they can break our laws and then thumb their noses at us with their protests about being held to our laws.
I obey our country's laws. I'm not in favor of those who don't.
Nice take.
REFERENCE POINTS:
Title 8 Section 1325 of the U.S. Code, "Improper Entry by Alien," any citizen of any country other than the United States who:
-Enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration officers; or
-Eludes examination or inspection by immigration officers; or
-Attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful concealment of a material fact; has committed a
federal crime. Violations are punishable by criminal fines and imprisonment for up to six months.
Repeat offenses can bring up to two years in prison.
Additional civil fines may be imposed at the discretion of immigration judges, but civil fines do not negate the criminal sanctions or nature of the offense.
Furthermore....
Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act in 1996; (Deportation and exclusion procedures were consolidated, effective April 1, 1997.)
-The president can deport any alien who was deemed dangerous.
I'm going to make fairly broad analogy here..but think of Mexico as the USA about 100 years ago...the establishement of an income tax here was designed to break up the mega-rich regional control of the country, acquire federal and local resources with which to build infrastructure in rural areas, and accelerate and facilitate the transition from an agricultural economy to a manufacturing economy. When we deal with the present Mexican leadership,who have read history north of the border, their gamble is to keep their oil assets and not be forced to invest in their countrymen , as ultimately many of the American "robber barons" families and corporations were 100 years ago. If George W. Bush is serious about bringing the benefits of the American Republic to Iraq, I expect to see him and his leadership doubly serious about the septic mess south of the border...not to prop up the status quo there on the backs of the American middle-class. Likwise, if he is intellectually and politically honest about homeland security, I expect to see real, functioning, constructive border solutions at the North and South that ultimateley enhance our relations with our neighbors. ("Good fences make good neighbors"). This is the only American approach to these issues.
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