[Full Court]

Why is it you want us to judge other people? God can and will do what God chooses to do as He has said in the Bible. He is not held to the instructions He gives us - He made those instructions. So, I am not going to attempt to limit God. God can save the man in the desert if He wishes, He can change His mind any time He wants. But, that does not change what He told us to do to get salvation. I feel that we just need to leave the extreme cases in God's hand for His dispensation and go about the business of trying to follow what He tells us to do.

So according to you, your god doesn't really mean what he says?

[ClancyJ]

Apparently there is no talking to you - as they say, your heart is hardened and your ears are deaf. So, I will not attempt further to mention baptism and the need for it to you.

There has been plenty of documentation here of what the Bible says about baptism, even Jesus was baptised - but, lo, you choose to ignore those verses in the Bible. So, who can help you? You have re-written your Bible to exclude any need for baptism.

Take it up with God - you are beyond our help. Tell God there was no need to continually talk about baptism in the Bible - as you fully understand - He did not mean anything by it.

Me, I'm not willing to ignore it for my soul. Who am I to pick only those verses that said believe and you are saved and to choose to ignore those verses that say, repent, be baptised for the remission of sin and you will be saved. Surely they did not actually mean you had to do anything to show your acceptance of Christ and to cleanse yourself of your past sins. Surely.