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To: RHINO369
The women who do porn are adults and they chose to do it.

So if they choose to be sexually tortured for pay rather than pleasure, that's OK with you?

Yes I know how easy it is for children to get porn, I'm part of the Internet generation. I'm only 20, and when I was 13 most guys I knew had computers and downloaded porn. It probably isn't the best thing for a kid but nobody I know turned out to be a sexual deviant.

How do you know? You are only 20. It doesn't necessarily happen overnight.

You can't change the biological fact that young men are driven to have sex, even when people told them they'd go blind if they masturbated, they still did it.

People have all sorts of urges. We can either encourage them to control those urges, or not.

Your never going to keep young men from porn.

Have I called for the banning of all porn? Watch the American Porn Frontline episode. I'd be pretty happy with a return to the Reagan-era standards of decency and indecency prosecutions.

We live in a free society, unless my actions directly infringe on your rights you have no business telling me what I can do.

That's the dream "free society" that libertarians want to live in. It bears little resemblance, as libertarians will freely point out when pressed, to the society we actually live in. Try telling the police officer, the next time he pulls you over doing 100 in a 55 zone that your actions don't directly infringe on anyone's rights and that he has no business telling you what you can do.

So do a good job at parenting and your kids won't be exposed.

Yes, I should restrict my liberty so you can excercise yours. That's a good deal for me how, exactly?

80 posted on 04/01/2006 8:21:25 PM PST by Question_Assumptions
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To: Question_Assumptions

"That's the dream "free society" that libertarians want to live in. It bears little resemblance, as libertarians will freely point out when pressed, to the society we actually live in. Try telling the police officer, the next time he pulls you over doing 100 in a 55 zone that your actions don't directly infringe on anyone's rights and that he has no business telling you what you can do.

So do a good job at parenting and your kids won't be exposed.

Yes, I should restrict my liberty so you can excercise yours. That's a good deal for me how, exactly?"

1) The roads were built and are owned by teh government, I have to follow their rules to use their roads, i accept that.

2) Uh, your trying to take away our freedoms so you have the freedom to not raise your kid? Nice try.


92 posted on 04/01/2006 8:40:14 PM PST by RHINO369
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To: Question_Assumptions
That's the dream "free society" that libertarians want to live in. It bears little resemblance, as libertarians will freely point out when pressed, to the society we actually live in. Try telling the police officer, the next time he pulls you over doing 100 in a 55 zone that your actions don't directly infringe on anyone's rights and that he has no business telling you what you can do.

You build a private road, on your own private property, and you can go as fast as you like, for as long as you like. Good examples of that is KCIR (Kansas City International Raceway), a drag strip that's in suburban Kansas City, or Heartland Park, a race track in Topeka, KS. I've taken my bike to Heartland Park for track days, riding it on the city streets and interstates, and I followed the laws required to ride the bike on public roads. However, once on the track, I had to follow track rules, which included things that made my bike illegal to ride on the street (like covering or deactiving all the lights and turn signals, and removing the mirrors). I was then free to ride as fast as I like, in fact, I was timed at over 127MPH on the straight there. And that was OK.

And I've got friends who've driven their cars to KCIR, and once on the track, managed speeds well in excess of the 45MPH speed limit of Noland Road in Kansas City, which is the street you need to drive down to get to KCIR.

Mark

135 posted on 04/01/2006 10:52:08 PM PST by MarkL (When Kaylee says "No power in the `verse can stop me," it's cute. When River says it, it's scary!)
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To: Question_Assumptions
So do a good job at parenting and your kids won't be exposed.
Yes, I should restrict my liberty

You claim the "liberty" of having kids and not doing the job of raising them?

That "liberty" must be in one of the fainter emanations from one of the most obscure penumbrae, hidden even from the piercing gaze of the Supreme Court....

266 posted on 04/05/2006 10:32:13 AM PDT by steve-b (A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
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