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To: RHINO369
So do a good job at parenting and your kids won't be exposed.

Define a "good job at parenting"? What are my obligations?

1) The roads were built and are owned by teh government, I have to follow their rules to use their roads, i accept that.

The country you live in is government by the government. You have to follow plenty of rules that have nothing to do with who owns the roads.

2) Uh, your trying to take away our freedoms so you have the freedom to not raise your kid? Nice try.

Uh, no. I'm trying to take away your freedoms so I don't have to hide my kids in my house with the curtains drawn to avoid pornography. To be perfectly honest, I care about my own liberty more than I care about your liberty. Sorry about that but I'm selfish that way, just as you are. Can you give me a good reason why I should care about your liberty in this matter?

104 posted on 04/01/2006 9:03:04 PM PST by Question_Assumptions
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To: Question_Assumptions
Uh, no. I'm trying to take away your freedoms so I don't have to hide my kids in my house with the curtains drawn to avoid pornography.

Sorry, but you don't have a right to a society that doesn't offend you.

To be perfectly honest, I care about my own liberty more than I care about your liberty. Sorry about that but I'm selfish that way, just as you are. Can you give me a good reason why I should care about your liberty in this matter?

I'm almost tempted to say that in that case, we don't have much more to discuss. You defend what you want; I'll defend what I want.

But the reason to care about another's liberty is that it makes it easier to protect your own. You seek to limit my liberty by limiting porn, believing that increases your liberty. Someone else, however, might not want their children exposed to religion and seek to keep more extreme examples of religion. Heck, in some cases that's what's happening.

Please note that I have no problem with religious displays. I think the effort to remove the 10 Commandments from courtrooms and crosses from city seals are wrong-headed. Maybe it's that I'm hard to offend, at least visually, but creches and crosses don't bother me, even though I'm not Christian. But there are people who complain about religion on television. While that's not a serious threat right now, it may be if they get religion banned from other parts of the public square.

From a strategic standpoint, I find it easier to defend freedom as a whole. You protect my right to look at porn if you're worried about your children seeing it, you close the metaphorical curtains. By the same token, someone who might be offended by preachers being on TV and worry about their children seeing it, can take the same steps.

Or we can go down the path of anything that has the potential to offend someone has the potential to be banned....

I gotta go, too.... later.

109 posted on 04/01/2006 9:25:18 PM PST by Celtjew Libertarian
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To: Question_Assumptions
"The country you live in is government by the government. You have to follow plenty of rules that have nothing to do with who owns the roads."

The government doesn't own me, nor does it own my property. The government exists as a union of the people of America. If the government oversteps its bounds we have a duty to end it. Right now there are things that our government does which do infringe on my rights but not enough to kill over or die over.

"Uh, no. I'm trying to take away your freedoms so I don't have to hide my kids in my house with the curtains drawn to avoid pornography. To be perfectly honest, I care about my own liberty more than I care about your liberty. Sorry about that but I'm selfish that way, just as you are. Can you give me a good reason why I should care about your liberty in this matter?"

You don't want to ban public pornography you want to ban me owning pornography. Unless your child lives in my laptop there's zero chance thats going to effect your child. And if you only care about your liberty, then none of us our free. If you support using government to force the world to be how you want it your not a conservative, you are a liberal by definition. Once the government comes for the drug addicts, the gun owners, the adulterers, the gays, the porno watchers, the speeders, the people who don't go to church, the people who swear, who the hell is going to be left when they make up some crazy law that makes you a criminal?

Plus who do you think is going to win if you turn america into a dictatorship of the mob, 70% of america doesn't go to church.

110 posted on 04/01/2006 9:28:11 PM PST by RHINO369
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