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To: SirJohnBarleycorn
The lacrosse captains, who live in the house and appear to be the specific players accused of the rape (based on the first names the alleged victim gave police), went to the police station and voluntarily gave statements without lawyers present.

I wish people would stop (your words) printing misinformation, SirJohnBarleycorn.

The court document available at smokinggun shows the accuser named an "Adam, Bret and Matt." The three lacrosse captains are not an "Adam, Bret and Matt."

It has been stated in numerous reports that the players identified themselves by number and the dancers believe the players used fake names. The "dancers" reported the players said they were on other sports teams and did not identify themselves as Lacrosse players.

There are two Matts on one Duke Lacrosse 2006 roster and three Matts on another one available on the internet.

The Lacrosse captains were released from the lease with Duke University and do not live in the house any longer.

Lacrosse Captain Dan has been reported to have admitted using an alias "Adam" when he hired the women.

Three players are reported to have willingly gone and shown no signs of acting like they had anything to hide and this is from a Newsweek source and possible repeated on MSNBC, several of the player's lawyers and on this thread over and over.

Even if three gave their account,( some places stress it was a written statement of events), that leaves 43 players "silent." There is the wall of silence. Oops - you wish people would stop repeating that. But the wall is still there. This week after the e-mail came to light, the University administrator again urged the players and others to come forward with information.

760 posted on 04/07/2006 1:56:12 PM PDT by proud2beconservativeinNJ
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To: proud2beconservativeinNJ
The three lacrosse captains are not an "Adam, Bret and Matt."

From the New York Times: "Lawyers for Lacrosse Players Dispute Accusations"

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/31/sports/31duke.html?ex=1301461200&en=c5cefeb061042acd&ei=5089&partner=rssyahoo&emc=rss

Kerry Sutton, who is representing Matt Zash, who lived in the house, said her client was one of the three captains who gave police a lengthy interview and written statement and offered to take a polygraph test.

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Another lawyer, Jim Thomas, who represents a captain who provided the police with statements, said no team member was alone with the accuser. Thomas would not say which player he represented.

* * *

Thomas said: "Everyone asks why these young men have not come forward. It's because no one was in the bathroom with the complainant. No one was alone with her. This didn't happen. They have no information to come forward with."

Butch Williams, who is representing Daniel Flannery, the third resident of the house, said the circumstances surrounding the 911 call that came at 12:53 a.m. March 14 did not ring true. The female caller told the 911 operator that she was passing the house where the party was going on and was cursed by at least one man standing in front of it.

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Zash, Flannery and the other captains — David Evans and Bret Thompson — issued a statement Tuesday saying that the DNA results would prove the allegations false.

So according to the New York Times (yes, I realize it's the New York Times), we have four captains Matt, Dan, David and Bret. According to this article, Matt and Dan lived in the house. I recall seeing somewhere it disclosed that Bret was the other resident of the house, but I can't lay my fingers on that source at the moment.

And Dan went by the alias "Adam" when dealing with the escort service.

The stripper claimed that Matt, Bret and Adam were the ones who pulled her into the bathroom.

So it would appear captains Matt, Bret and Adam/Dan are likely the ones most in the crosshairs of the accusation. However, you are correct that it is possible that another Matt was the Matt referred to, or even that the players at the party (who had been drinking) all consistently used false names when referring to one another in front of the strippers, and that it was another three partygoers using the names Matt, Bret and Adam who were the ones claimed by the stripper as pulling her into the bathroom.

763 posted on 04/07/2006 3:09:07 PM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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