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I'm back after a great day of golf and then soccer with the kids. Amazing considering global warming and all that. We've had the most rain in history here in NCal and yet today was great. I've admired your posts these past two years and respect your contributions. I am concerned however as I check back in I find the posts on this board becoming increasingly one sided. Your opinion carries enormous weight in these here halls. I hope you are right in this instance as you have been in the past.

Well, I'm certainly not trying to manipulate what anybody is thinking. I do tend to ping people who are interested in a topic -- no sense pinging people who don't post on the threads, eh -- and maybe that's where the slant comes in?

Your opinion carries enormous weight in these here halls.

There are plenty of people here who disagree with you, I can assure you!

But I hope you mean in a good way.

I've admired your posts these past two years and respect your contributions. I am concerned however as I check back in I find the posts on this "thread" becoming increasingly one sided.

I'll wait for the facts, Howlin. You indeed have lost credibility with me and I'm sure others that have followed this thread. It would be interesting to have the facts. You discount the 911 phone call, partially based on you repeatedly spreading the no house number theory. There is no house number now, but did the University remove the numbers for safety and public relation reasons, after the incident was reported?

Someone in this thread wrote that there were only 5 lacrosse players attending the party. The home was rented from the University that included the three lacrosse captains on the lease. The university released the men from their contract and allowed them to move out for safety reasons.

There are so much misinformation being passed around here. 45 college kids can easily party in a small house and not everyone would be able to tell you what happened or didn't happen in a small bathroom. I'll wait for the facts from all sides.