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To: Luis Gonzalez
Princeton University sociologist Douglas S. Massey reports that 62 percent of illegal immigrants pay income taxes (via withholding) and 66 percent contribute to Social Security

The lowest 30% of American income earners not only have no income tax liability but they also qualify for the Earned Income Tax Credit (which is a governmment or, more accurately, taxpayer subsidy). What percentage of illegal aliens do you think are in the top 70% of income earners...virtually none I will bet

only 5 percent receive food stamps or unemployment assistance

There is no way to verify that because every state welfare agency as far as I know is prohibited from inquiring about an applicant's legal status. According to the US Census Bureau, 21% of all immigrants use various welfare programs...which is 43 percent higher than non-immigrants’ use (15 percent). There is no reason to believe that illegal immigrants (who are paid far less than other immigrants use welfare at the low rate this article claims

66 percent contribute to Social Security

The late John Attarian, who was one of the nation's foremost experts on Social Security, addressed the widespread myth that illegals are helping to save Social Security:

Immigration supporters argue that increasing immigration will push the taxpayer/beneficiary ratio back up and thereby avert the Social Security crisis. Seemingly sensible, this claim is extremely shaky.

Immigration contributes little to Social Security's finances. Alleged tax payments by illegal immigrants of $2.7 billion in 1990 were less than one percent of that year's Social Security revenues. So to substantially help Social Security, immigration would have to be much greater than it is now. Maintaining today's taxpayer/beneficiary ratio would require millions of immigrants every year, above future immigration already assumed by Social Security. Immigrants get old, too. So still more immigrants and their adult children would be needed to pay their benefits - perhaps 180 million by 2080. Adding such huge numbers of workers would depress labor productivity unless matched by trillions of dollars in investment. Since immigration is already making labor incomes stagnate, much higher immigration would almost certainly depress wages, and perhaps even reduce Social Security revenues. And most immigrants are poorly-educated and unskilled, hence earn low incomes, making them poor Social Security revenue sources.

Besides, much higher immigration would cause serious problems. The enormous population growth would overwhelm our infrastructure, energy supply, and natural resources, and greatly worsen urban sprawl. Political conflict is also likely, since poor working immigrants will understandably dislike being taxed to support wealthier Social Security retirees.

In some ways, immigration actually weakens Social Security. Some skilled foreign H-1B "guest workers" are recruited and supplied under contract to American firms. As employees of foreign firms, no Social Security taxes are withheld. Moreover, displacing Americans with cheaper immigrant labor means revenue losses for Social Security.
--John Attarian, Ph.D. (Economics) Author of Social Security: False Consciousness and Crisis

85 posted on 03/31/2006 12:48:23 PM PST by Irontank (Let them revere nothing but religion, morality and liberty -- John Adams)
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To: Irontank
Some skilled foreign H-1B "guest workers" are recruited and supplied under contract to American firms. As employees of foreign firms, no Social Security taxes are withheld.

How old is this information? My fiancee is on an H1-B and he pays Social Security taxes.
106 posted on 03/31/2006 12:55:42 PM PST by elc
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To: Irontank
Spot on IronTank!

The fundamental flaw in illegals/immigrants "saving" Social Security argument is that these idiots forget that it is a proven medical fact that even immigrants do get old! Then we have to fork out a far greater number of SS checks than we would have had to do otherwise.

H - e - l - l - o - o - o....

137 posted on 03/31/2006 1:06:03 PM PST by Cyropaedia ("Virtue cannot separate itself from reality without becoming a principal of evil...".)
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