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1 posted on 03/31/2006 11:51:12 AM PST by JTN
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2 posted on 03/31/2006 11:51:33 AM PST by JTN ("I came here to kick ass and chew bubble gum. And I'm all out of bubble gum.")
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The average person, confronted with cops asking if they can search her house or car, would not realize she has a right to decline.

Always deny consent to a search, and keep your mouth shut. Make them do their job.

3 posted on 03/31/2006 12:08:08 PM PST by CrawDaddyCA (Your Lord and Master...Foamy the Squirrel)
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Disappointed to hear that John Roberts failed this very simple test of conservative values.


4 posted on 03/31/2006 12:13:26 PM PST by Redbob
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The average person, confronted with cops asking if they can search her house or car, would not realize she has a right to decline.

 Ignorance of the law is no excuse. The average person may not know but I bet the criminal does.

 This is not a question of “convenience of law enforcement”. The fact is that if you have contraband in your house and police have to get a search warrant the contraband will be gone by the time they return.

 So let's see, man standing two houses away has no right of privacy but one standing in the doorway does? You see how screwed up it’s going to get and how police will not know what rules to follow? "Oh, no judge I was standing in the yard, not in the doorway."

News report of the arrest: "The defendant/victim of police abuse, claims that the police officer lied to justify an illegal search. According to the victim, he was standing on the sidewalk and not in his doorway. The illegal search took place at 4 a.m. There were several bystanders who confirmed the victims statement. The officer has had two reprimands for overstepping his authority. Several people have come forward to testify that this particular police officer has a reputation for lying to justify previous arrests. This newspaper is calling for the police chief take action against the officer for illegally searching for and finding fifteen pounds of cocaine in Mr. X's private living room, before typing out an affidavit, getting a judge out of bed, and serving the warrant on the victim prior to making a legal search of the living room."

6 posted on 03/31/2006 12:19:49 PM PST by street_lawyer (Conservative Defender of the Faith)
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It can pretend people have no expectation of privacy even when they do, and it can pretend that people routinely agree to things they have every reason to reject.

If no one is home to deny access. Refer to the Patriot Act.

7 posted on 03/31/2006 12:26:46 PM PST by Realism (Some believe that the facts-of-life are open to debate.....)
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"After all, most of us are familiar with the axiom that a man's home is his castle"

How did "a man's home is his castle" get promoted from an expression to an axiom?
8 posted on 03/31/2006 12:32:22 PM PST by Moral Hazard (Personally I support multiple regression analysis.)
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If I recall correctly, CJ Roberts argument was basicly why should there be a differentiation for someone "physically present in the entryway" who could deny entry, as the majority in this case ruled, versus someone "physically present" on the property, but in custody in the back of a police car in the driveway, who could not, as prior case law had determined. In both cases, the "significant other" gave permission to police to search. I believe his dissent had more to do with the Court failing to formulate a definition of "physically present occupant". See both US vs Matlock and Georgia vs Randolph for the slight difference. BTW, both cases are still valid.


10 posted on 03/31/2006 1:07:48 PM PST by nativesoutherner (Maj, Inf, Aviation, USA (Ret))
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This was abused by the cops all the time.

You just put ANYONE into the house and then let the plant "authorize" the entrance to the house.


17 posted on 03/31/2006 2:07:24 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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Good, good decision.


28 posted on 03/31/2006 9:09:00 PM PST by mysterio
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I agree. If the police think I committed a crime, they should go to the trouble of securing a warrant to search the premises of my place. If they don't, they're lazy in diligence and its not my job to make law enforcement's life easier or more convenient. As a citizen in a free country, I should have the right to say "NO" when the circumstances warrant it and when my interests would served by telling the authorities to wait til they get their warrant in hand.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

30 posted on 03/31/2006 10:10:15 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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LOL!! Author Steve Chapman is beside himself with joy that a cocaine-using father beat the rap. Thank God the Supreme Court Hallelujah, and congratulations to Steve Chapman and the druggie. Common sense.



32 posted on 03/31/2006 10:30:48 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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