[Proud_USA_Republican]

Since putting the A350 on the market in December, 2004, Airbus has logged 100 firm orders -- including an order for nine planes signed on Mar. 30, 2006, by Finnair. That compared with 291 orders booked by Boeing for the 787 since May, 2004.


Let's not forget that Airbust's definition of a "firm" order and Boeing's is completely different.

Airbust finds anyway it can to count, "option" orders which is that the airline company might order those jets in the future, but isn't financially bound to, as "firm" orders. Firm orders are where the airlines are contractually purchasing the planes and dates for the planes being delivered are negotiated. The airline manufacturer will issue a reserved slot on the assembly line for the plane to be built.
Airbust has gotten into the habit of counting option orders as firm orders so it can always claim it sells way more planes than it does.
Airbust in the last days of 2005 tried to count a massive order of planes sold to China which put them past Boeing in total plane orders. China came back later and said this order was still in negotiation and these weren't even option orders yet.

[SW6906]

But you will notice Airbust still counts those Chinese orders in their 2005 order total, just so they can say they sold more than Boeing.

Everyone in the industry sees right through what Airbust did.

[stefan10]

"Let's not forget that Airbust's definition of a "firm" order and Boeing's is completely different.

Airbust finds anyway it can to count, "option" orders which is that the airline company might order those jets in the future, but isn't financially bound to, as "firm" orders. Firm orders are where the airlines are contractually purchasing the planes and dates for the planes being delivered are negotiated. The airline manufacturer will issue a reserved slot on the assembly line for the plane to be built.
Airbust has gotten into the habit of counting option orders as firm orders so it can always claim it sells way more planes than it does.
Airbust in the last days of 2005 tried to count a massive order of planes sold to China which put them past Boeing in total plane orders. China came back later and said this order was still in negotiation and these weren't even option orders yet. "



Yea this is really the problem of Airbus and the reason why the deliver more planes than Boeing. They just count fantasy orders and deliver the planes to fantasy airlines that pay fantasy prices for the fantasy planes. So more or less it is a complete fantasy company.

So now we solved the miracle of years and years with record profits and numbers by Airbus.

Thanks