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To: sinkspur
Completely and totally wrong. If you knew any Scripture, you would know that Jesus was referring to the Pharisees here. The context is Jesus describing himself as the Shepherd. There are three marks, he declares, by which we can tell the true Shepherd: First, "He who does not enter the sheepfold by the door but climbs in by another way, that man is a thief and a robber; but he who enters by the door is the shepherd of the sheep." What does he mean, "the door?" He is referring, of course, to the normal, proper entrance to a sheepfold. If you dont' know what a "sheepfold" is, look it up.

If I knew any Scripture? I hold a doctorate in theology, thank you. No, you're wrong. Jesus was talking to the Pharisees, but he did not exclude anyone else attempting to climb over the wall as not being a robber and a thief. These robbers and thieves were clearly seeking to enter and live in the Kingdom of Heaven by illegal means, and hence would be illegal immigrants in the Kingdom of Heaven.

The prophets had predicted the way the Shepherd would come to the sheep. They had foretold where he would be born, whom he would be born to, and the unusual character of his birth. They had predicted how he would appear to the nation, how he would be introduced, where he would live, what he would say, and what he would do when he came. This is what our Lord means. He came the predicted way, the normal, expected way. The Pharisees were attempting to sneak in as false shepherds. They were not entering the sheepfold through the proper gate, but were sneaking over the fence. They are false shepherds, not illegal immigrants.

Wrong again. Jesus clearly refers to the sheep, NOT the Pharisees in the following passage, which proves they are the LEGAL IMMIGRANTS. True, he was speaking to the Pharisees, but he made it perfectly clear ANYONE who attempts to enter without coming through the door is a thief and robber...illegal alien. "The gatekeeper opens the gate for him, and the sheep recognize his voice and come to him. He calls his own sheep by name and leads them out. After he has gathered his own flock, he walks ahead of them, and they follow him because they know his voice." Jn 10:3-4
180 posted on 03/31/2006 10:34:47 AM PST by GarySpFc (de oppresso liber)
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To: GarySpFc
I hold a doctorate in theology, thank you.

If you do, you must have been sick on the Gospel of John day.

Honesty and integrity alone should shame you into not trying to drag Jesus into this discussion on your side with a bogus reading of this passage.

181 posted on 03/31/2006 10:41:50 AM PST by sinkspur (Things are about to happen that will answer all your questions and solve all your problems.)
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