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Sounds good. Rods from god sounds brutal.
1 posted on 03/30/2006 3:19:43 PM PST by MARKUSPRIME
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To: MARKUSPRIME

Yes its an oldie but a good one. :)


2 posted on 03/30/2006 3:21:01 PM PST by MARKUSPRIME
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A Tungsten steel rod twenty feet long and one foot in diameter?

Gee, that sounds like an absurdly expensive waste of semi-precious metal.

3 posted on 03/30/2006 3:29:21 PM PST by The KG9 Kid (Semper Fi!)
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To: MARKUSPRIME

It might be a great weapon, but the name really stinks and might render it worse than useless. ...vanity.


5 posted on 03/30/2006 3:33:13 PM PST by familyop ("Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists." --President Bush)
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Old idea. Elegant but unaffordable.


6 posted on 03/30/2006 3:34:36 PM PST by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: MARKUSPRIME

A good Sci-fi reference would be Babylon 5 - "The long, twilight stuggle" episode. Minbari fleet using mass drivers to bomb the Narn back to the stone age.


10 posted on 03/30/2006 3:59:09 PM PST by Illuminatas (Being conservative means never having to say; "Don't you dare question my patriotism")
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To: MARKUSPRIME; RightWingAtheist

Shades of "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress".

I read about this concept (not the same name however) more than 20 years ago.


13 posted on 03/30/2006 4:14:08 PM PST by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinetic_bombardment


Project Thor

Project Thor is an idea for a weapons system that launches kinetic projectiles from Earth orbit to damage targets on the ground. It is said that, at some point in history, the concept originated in a classified study for the United States Air Force.

The most described system is 'an orbiting tungsten telephone pole with small fins and a computer in the back for guidance.' The weapon can be down-scaled as small as several metres long, an orbiting "crowbar" rather than a pole.

The time between deorbiting and impact would only be a few minutes, and depending on the orbits and positions in the orbits, the system would have a world-wide range. There is no requirement to deploy missiles, aircraft or other vehicles. Although the SALT II treaty (1979) prohibited the deployment of orbital weapons of mass destruction, it did not prohibit the deployment of conventional weapons.

The weapon inflicts damage because it moves at orbital velocities, at least 9 kilometres per second. The amount of energy released by the largest version when it hits the ground is roughly comparable to a small nuclear weapon or very large conventional bomb. Smaller weapons can deliver measured amounts of energy as small as a 500lb conventional bomb.

The "pole" shape is optimal because it enhances reentry and maximises the device's ability to penetrate hard or buried targets. The larger device is expected to be quite good at penetrating deeply buried bunkers and other command and control targets. The smaller "crowbar" size might be employed for anti-armor, anti-aircraft, anti-satellite and possibly anti-personnel use.

The weapon would be very hard to defend against. It has a very high closing velocity and a small radar cross-section. Launch is difficult to detect. Any infra-red launch signature occurs in orbit, at no fixed position. The infra-red launch signature also has a small magnitude compared to a ballistic missile launch. One drawback of the system is that the weapon's sensors would almost certainly be blind during reentry due to the plasma sheath that would develop ahead of it, so a mobile target could be difficult to hit if it performed any unexpected maneuvering.

While the larger version might be individually launched, the smaller versions would be launched from "pods" or "carriers" that contained several missiles.

It was most recently popularised by Jerry Pournelle, on his website, under the title "Project Thor."


Rods from God

Rods from God are a space-based kinetic energy weapon that has been discussed since the early 1980s.

The system would consist of tandem satellites, one serving as a communications platform, the other carrying a number of tungsten rods, each up to 20 feet in length and 1 foot in diameter. These rods, which could be dropped on a target with as little as 15 minutes notice, would enter the Earth's atmosphere at a speed of 36,000 feet per second - about as fast as a meteor. Upon impact, the rod would be capable of producing all the effects of an earth-penetrating nuclear weapon, without any of the radioactive fallout. This type of weapon relies on kinetic energy, rather than high-explosives, to generate destructive force.

They would conceivably be particularly well adapted to penetrate hardened targets, such as underground nuclear facilities.

There are major difficulties involved. One of them is where to position the rods. They need to be high enough to deliver enough energy upon impact, but not so high that they vaporize in Earth's atmosphere. The other difficulty is the number of satellites that would be required to cover a material portion of the Earth.



14 posted on 03/30/2006 4:34:18 PM PST by the lone wolf (Good Luck, and watch out for stobor.)
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To: MARKUSPRIME

They can't make up their minds on "rods from g-d", it's like a street hockey game, Game On -> CAR -> Game On -> Car... kind of like the DDX...


16 posted on 03/30/2006 4:55:21 PM PST by MD_Willington_1976
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The de-orbit burn would have to take place over Europe - "orbiting over Baghdad" my lands! - where do these writer learn science? TV?
19 posted on 03/30/2006 8:34:47 PM PST by ASOC (Choose between the lesser of two evils, and in the end, you still have - evil.)
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