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Bush burns his base on the borders
Star-Ledger ^ | March 30, 2006 | Paul Mulshine

Posted on 03/30/2006 2:31:49 PM PST by Irontank

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To: courtinwi

" In fact, if you think about it, the U.S. needs the tax base to help support all of the baby boomers who will be heading into retirement. If the U.S. made it easier for immigrants to get a visa, we would be preventing problems that countries such as Japan has with one third of its citizens over the age of 65."

Eliminate the illegal and unconstitutional SS and Medicare and your concerns are solved.

Get every illegal out of the country and arrest anyone that aids or hires one including homeowners.


41 posted on 03/30/2006 3:06:39 PM PST by dalereed
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To: chris1

>>They don't even call me anymore.<<
Next time they call, I'll ask them to remove me from their list and I'll tell them exactly why.


42 posted on 03/30/2006 3:06:57 PM PST by travlnmn41
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To: sinkspur


Exactly right, sinkspur.

People do not VOTE the issue ---

one look at the US Congresscritters elected from border states and border towns proves your premise!


43 posted on 03/30/2006 3:07:11 PM PST by onyx (Elections are in November, 06 ---- 08 can wait!)
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To: Vicomte13
>>>You'll see the turnaround in November: Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi.<<<<


Agreed, but don't you think Bush knows that too?

But if selling out this nation to further the NWO is his goal, he'll proceed with this insanity.
44 posted on 03/30/2006 3:07:37 PM PST by investigateworld (Abortion stops a beating heart)
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To: chris1
" ... This new breed of "republican" worships at the altar of the dollar ... "


You may want to take off your rose colored glasses.

American's, by and large, are interested in the almighty dollar more than life itself, and have been for years.

This is just the chickens coming home to roost.




45 posted on 03/30/2006 3:07:56 PM PST by G.Mason (Duty, Honor, Country)
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To: Icelander

46 posted on 03/30/2006 3:08:05 PM PST by Jasper (Stand Fast, Craigellachie !)
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To: AlexW

Please, that caller was disgusting.

There are many businesses, like Rush pointed out, that can't get away making such pathetic excuses. Why should these people be different?

Do you live like Rush? I sure don't, and I sure don't employ illegals and evade taxes.


47 posted on 03/30/2006 3:08:24 PM PST by chris1
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To: jlasoon
Lets see how many Mexicans vote for republicans.

And there you have folks...the problem in a nutshell.

Everyone raise their hand who is worried about the votes of

MEXICANS

Last time I checked MEXICANS are not allowed to vote in our election...

48 posted on 03/30/2006 3:09:55 PM PST by antaresequity (PUSH 1 FOR ENGLISH - PUSH 2 TO BE DEPORTED)
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To: All

Found this on a local blog
The Plan! (it includes immigration)

Robin Williams, wearing a shirt that says "I love New York" in Arabic.

You gotta love Robin Williams...... Even if he's nuts! Leave it to Robin Williams to come up with the perfect
plan. What we need now is for our UN Ambassador to stand up and repeat this message.

Robin Williams' plan...(Hard to
argue with this logic!)

"I see a lot of people yelling for peace
but I have not heard of a plan for
peace. So, here's one plan."

1) "The US will apologize to the world for our "interference" in their affairs, past &present. You know, Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, Tojo, Noriega, Milosevic, Hussein, and the rest of those "good 'ole' boys", we will never "interfere" again.

2) We will withdraw our troops from all over the world, starting with Germany, South Korea, the Middle East, and the Philippines. They don't want us there. We would station troops at our borders. No one allowed sneaking through holes in the fence.

3) All illegal aliens have 90 days to get their affairs together and leave.We'll give them a free trip home. After 90 days the remainder will be gathered up and deported immediately, regardless of whom or where they are. They're illegal!!! France will welcome them.

4) All future visitors will be thoroughly checked and limited to 90 days unless given a special permit!!!! No one from a terrorist nation will be allowed in. If you don't like it there, change it yourself and don't hide here. Asylum would never be available
to anyone. We don't need any more cab drivers or 7-11 cashiers.

5) No foreign "students" over age 21. The older ones are the bombers. If they don't attend classes, they get a "D" and it's back home baby.

6) The US will make a strong effort
to become self-sufficient energy wise. This will include developing nonpolluting sources of energy but will require a temporary drilling of oil in the Alaskan wilderness. The caribou will have to cope for a while.

7) Offer Saudi Arabia and other oil producing countries $10 a barrel for their oil. If they don't like it, we go someplace else. They can go somewhere else to sell their production. (About a week of the wells filling up the storage sites would be enough.)

8) If there is a famine or other natural catastrophe in the world, we will not "interfere." They can pray to Allah or whomever, for seeds, rain, cement or whatever they need. Besides most of what we give them is stolen or given
to the army. The people who need
it most get very little, if anything.

9) Ship the UN Headquarters to an isolated island someplace. We don't need the spies and fair weather friends here. Besides, the building would make a good homeless shelter or lockup for illegal aliens.

10) All Americans must go to charm and beauty school. That way, no one can call us "Ugly Americans" any longer. The Language we speak is ENGLISH...learn it...or LEAVE...Now, isn't that a winner of a plan?

"The Statue of Liberty is no longer
saying "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses." She's got a baseball bat and she's yelling, 'you want a piece of me?' "


Posted by: Brown Red and Glad | March 30, 2006 at 09:33 AM


49 posted on 03/30/2006 3:10:27 PM PST by imintrouble
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To: courtinwi
"U.S. citizens are simply not re-producing fast enough..."

U.S. citizens that are productive members of society may not be reproducing in adequate numbers, but make no mistake that the class eating up much of the entitlements in this country are reproducing at breakneck speed.

50 posted on 03/30/2006 3:10:48 PM PST by JustaDumbBlonde
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To: dalereed

Wrong, most of these people don't make that much and will take out far more than they pay in. Many will bring their elderly sick relatives here who will drown the system.

Additionally, if you look at the working life of many of these "guests" they don't have a long working life. Many are manual laborers and can only really work until they are late 40's maybe 50. Do the math.


51 posted on 03/30/2006 3:10:51 PM PST by chris1
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To: G.Mason

Its really sad to see what is going on.


52 posted on 03/30/2006 3:11:31 PM PST by chris1
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To: stopem
Please folks hit the GOP where it hurts lets all stop sending any donations to the GOP let the mexicans send them donations.

I'd be willing to bet you haven't donated to the GOP in years, if ever.

53 posted on 03/30/2006 3:11:58 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: antaresequity

Everyone raise their hand who is voting next time around.

Last time i checked 10% of people want amnesty Keep pissing off the base and no one will vote.


54 posted on 03/30/2006 3:13:59 PM PST by jlasoon
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To: Dog Gone

Me personally, I volunteered twice for many hours, in 2000 and 2004. In 04' I went to Florida for a week, I am self employed, to help poll watch etc etc.

I will never do again. Why? Gay marriage?


55 posted on 03/30/2006 3:14:03 PM PST by chris1
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To: G.Mason

Since wo many seem to think that money is the answer here, how about this:

Impose a $10,000 per illegal Employee, on every Employer in the Country who hires an illegal alien.

The only "amnesty" I would offer would be a thirty day wait before we started hammering employers, to give them a chance to verify their Employees' records; like providing valid social Security numbers, current and accurate Form I-9s; in other words, enforce the laws that are inexistence right now.


56 posted on 03/30/2006 3:14:46 PM PST by Bean Counter ("Stout Hearts!")
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To: courtinwi
In fact, if you think about it, the U.S. needs the tax base to help support all of the baby boomers who will be heading into retirement.

Increasing immigration in an attempt to stay ahead of the inevitable collapse of Social Security would be, in fact, counterproductive. From the late John Attarian (one of the nation's foremost economic experts on Social Security):

Immigration supporters argue that increasing immigration will push the taxpayer/beneficiary ratio back up and thereby avert the Social Security crisis. Seemingly sensible, this claim is extremely shaky.

Immigration contributes little to Social Security's finances. Alleged tax payments by illegal immigrants of $2.7 billion in 1990 were less than one percent of that year's Social Security revenues. So to substantially help Social Security, immigration would have to be much greater than it is now. Maintaining today's taxpayer/beneficiary ratio would require millions of immigrants every year, above future immigration already assumed by Social Security. Immigrants get old, too. So still more immigrants and their adult children would be needed to pay their benefits - perhaps 180 million by 2080. Adding such huge numbers of workers would depress labor productivity unless matched by trillions of dollars in investment. Since immigration is already making labor incomes stagnate, much higher immigration would almost certainly depress wages, and perhaps even reduce Social Security revenues. And most immigrants are poorly-educated and unskilled, hence earn low incomes, making them poor Social Security revenue sources.

Besides, much higher immigration would cause serious problems. The enormous population growth would overwhelm our infrastructure, energy supply, and natural resources, and greatly worsen urban sprawl. Political conflict is also likely, since poor working immigrants will understandably dislike being taxed to support wealthier Social Security retirees.

In some ways, immigration actually weakens Social Security. Some skilled foreign H-1B "guest workers" are recruited and supplied under contract to American firms. As employees of foreign firms, no Social Security taxes are withheld. Moreover, displacing Americans with cheaper immigrant labor means revenue losses for Social Security.
--John Attarian, Ph.D. (Economics) Author of Social Security: False Consciousness and Crisis

57 posted on 03/30/2006 3:15:08 PM PST by Irontank (Let them revere nothing but religion, morality and liberty -- John Adams)
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To: chris1
This is so freaking sad.

Ronald Reagan was a great president because he framed the issues.

Bush is becoming more and more like Carter.......weak on every issue of importance to real Americans except the WOT.....

and even there he's screwed the pooch!

Clinton coasted in his second term.....I'm afraid that's all we can expect from Bush.

Too bad....Bush might have been a historic figure if he had not let his opponents and his enemies label him from the start!!

He went from the offensive to the defensive somewhere along the way.

The only good thing about millions of Mexican invaders.....

at least they are Christians.....unlike the satanic muslim horde invading Europe!!

58 posted on 03/30/2006 3:15:11 PM PST by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN (Toon Town, Iran...........where reality is the real fantasy.)
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To: Irontank

Bush is so very wrong. At the present pace Mexicans and their large families will control the political scene in the US in 50 years or less! All the illegals must be sent home even if the army is required!


59 posted on 03/30/2006 3:17:33 PM PST by Doctor Don
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To: CROSSHIGHWAYMAN

GWB has gone on the offensive for the wrong things. Think about it. The things he fights for the most are terrible other than WOT.

Drug Bill
CFR
Borders

He has only himself to blame.


60 posted on 03/30/2006 3:18:32 PM PST by chris1
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