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1 posted on 03/30/2006 12:34:37 PM PST by jimbergin
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To: jimbergin

reduce??


2 posted on 03/30/2006 12:35:55 PM PST by petercooper (Cemeteries & the ignorant - comprising 2 of the largest Democrat voting blocs for the past 75 years.)
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There will be no immigration law , just a House bill and a Senate bill that shall never meet:
House Speaker Dennis Hastert raised the possibility that a program letting illegal immigrants continue to reside in the U.S. for a period of time might be considered by the House if the Senate approves one.

"Our first priority is to protect the borders. We also know there is a need in some sectors of this economy for a guest worker program," Hastert told reporters Wednesday.

However, there is a growing consensus among lawmakers that any merging of the House and Senate measures so that Congress could send a bill to President Bush won't occur until after the November election.

"What you end up doing is the House has passed a bill, the Senate passed a bill and everybody declares victory and you don't get anything out of conference between now and the elections," said Sen. Charles Grassley, R-Iowa.


3 posted on 03/30/2006 12:37:07 PM PST by george wythe
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To: jimbergin

Fully a quarter (25%) of those who believe reducing illegal immigration is the top priority also believe that some way should be found to keep illegal immigrants in the country legally.

Funny, that looks to me like 75% want illegal immigrants the **bleep** out of this country. Not much ambiguity there, except in the mind of the reporter.


4 posted on 03/30/2006 12:37:11 PM PST by bordergal
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To: jimbergin

"Earlier surveys on immigration have found support for building a barrier along the Mexican border and positive attitudes towards citizen patrols along the border. Another survey found that most Americans consider current immigration laws a threat to both national security and the economy. Three-fourths of all Americans believe it is too easy for people from other countries to enter the United States."

Good to see that there is some sanity among the American people. Now if only our elected officials will come to their senses.


5 posted on 03/30/2006 12:38:27 PM PST by Avenger
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To: jimbergin

What divisive? A vast majority of Americans want illegal immigration stopped. We are not divided, we overwhelming approve.


6 posted on 03/30/2006 12:39:27 PM PST by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: jimbergin

Ask 'em this. Are you in favor of a bunch of illegals moving in next door? Are you in favor of a bunch of illegals standing outside your place of business soliciting work? You'll see how "divisive" this issue is.


7 posted on 03/30/2006 12:40:03 PM PST by claudiustg (Delenda est Iran!)
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To: jimbergin
However, that doesn't translate into an overwhelming public desire to force illegal aliens out of the country. Thirty-nine percent (39%) of Americans say there should be some way for illegal aliens with a job to stay in the U.S. legally. Forty-four percent (44%) disagree while 17% are not sure.

Even with that deceptive and wimpy framing of the question, they couldn't garner more than a 39-44 result.

Besides, if they already have a job, they have it illegally. Not only should they be deported, but their employers should be punished to the fullest extent of the law.

As if this administration would enforce the law...

8 posted on 03/30/2006 12:40:14 PM PST by EternalVigilance (www.usbordersecurity.org)
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"Earlier surveys on immigration have found support for building a barrier along the Mexican border"

Build the fence! Reagan's amnesty did not address the problem we are suffering now. Bush's current ideas do not address the problem that we will face in another 10-20 years.

Without an effective wall/fence, the problem of illegal aliens will not be solved.

11 posted on 03/30/2006 12:41:54 PM PST by JustaDumbBlonde
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To: jimbergin
I just want to know where the freepers are suppose to migrate to? Which state is the most legal friendly? (can't say anti-illegal)
12 posted on 03/30/2006 12:43:58 PM PST by one more state
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To: jimbergin; petercooper; bordergal; hedgetrimmer; EternalVigilance; Avenger
Here's the deal: the Mexican government gets veto power over U.S. immigration policy, and the US loses sovereignty.

How do we know?

In the Mexican Congress, it was recently announced that a document would be drafted, to show support for the protest marches in our country. The Mexican government published advertisements in leading American newspapers calling for the legalization of illegal immigrants (those in the United States, not in Mexico) and "a far-reaching guest workers scheme." Not only that, said the ads, but "in order for a US guest workers program to be viable, Mexico should participate in its design, management, supervision and evaluation."

In other words, the Mexican government wants veto power over U.S. immigration policy.

And they might just get it. Outrageously, many in our own government are only too happy to oblige them.

Ruben Aguilar, spokesman for President Vicente Fox, made this statement to support the marches: "The recent protests carried out in different places in the United States are indicative of the imminent necessity of a migratory accord that corresponds to the interests of both countries, and that especially to the defense of the rights of migrants. The government of the (Mexican) Republic ratifies its commitment to the Mexicans who live in the United States and its intention to work in the defense of their rights ..."

None of this is surprising.

The protestors--carrying Mexican flags---and the Mexican government share the same goals: legalize Mexican illegal aliens and keep the borders open. The Mexican government wins b/c they see it as a way to relieve economic pressure on their government to reform the economy.

Mexico's leaders also work to retain the loyalty of the immigrant mobs so that, even if they become American citizens, they retain their loyalty to Mexico.

And the plan is working thanks to the dupes in the US Congress.

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This demonstrates the mindset of invasion rather than immigration-----and the plan by illegals to overthrow the US government:

Reconquista Armando Navarro 'Ethnic Studies' Professor at the University of California, Riverside Anti-American, Fifth-Column Menace. "Ladies and Gentlemen, what this means (the immigration bill) is a transfer of power, it means control, and it is the young people, the people who are now moving to develop an agenda for the twenty first century they are going to be in a position to really make the promise of what the Chicano movement was all about in terms of self-determination, in terms of empowerment, even in the terms of an Aztlan...."


13 posted on 03/30/2006 12:45:53 PM PST by Liz (Liberty consists in having the power to do that which is permitted by the law. Cicero)
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To: jimbergin

A good start would be to ENFORCE THE LAWS ALREADY ON THE BOOKS!
If they want to strengthen the laws fine, but we do already have laws that are being violated.
Close the border, put enough agents on the line to enforce it. If necessary use other resources like National Guard.
Start arresting and issuing fines to the scummy employers who hire illegals.
Start deporting any and all illegals who are stopped and/or arrested by LE. Good place to start is at their illegal demonstrations.
This can all be done now without any action of Congress. Who is in charge of enforcing our Federal Laws? Wouldn't that be the Executive Branch?


14 posted on 03/30/2006 12:48:49 PM PST by antceecee
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To: jimbergin
Immigration Issue Remains Divisive

Really? I've seen much closer polls on Bush's popularity labelled as "unquestionable bad news for the President" or words to that effect.

Doesn't seem all that divisive when you read below that headline.

15 posted on 03/30/2006 12:48:56 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (No respect for conservatives? That's free speech. No respect for liberals? That's hate speech.)
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To: jimbergin
 
Do you support building a wall along the U.S.-Mexico border?

17 posted on 03/30/2006 12:52:01 PM PST by Icelander (Legal Resident Since 2004)
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To: jimbergin

As the esteemed members of our Congress debate the merits of the immigration bill, thousands our illegal aliens are defiantly crossing the border right now and will continue until our Gov't gets their heads out of their asses!!

ENFORCE THE CURRENT IMMIGRATION LAWS. PROTECT AMERICA AND AMERICANS, CLOSE THE BORDER NOW!!


20 posted on 03/30/2006 1:12:59 PM PST by Daytyn71 (Today's Illegals are Tomorrow's Democrats!!)
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To: jimbergin
This issue isn't Divisive to Americans. Even the Democommies I've talked to hate illegal immigration and amnesty for illegals.

Contact your Senators now.

http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm
http://numbersusa.com/faxcenter
23 posted on 03/30/2006 1:41:17 PM PST by conservativethinker (http://www.numbersusa.com/faxcenter)
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To: jimbergin; doug from upland
DOUG started with this thread U.S. BORDER PATROL: Turn In Illegal Aliens (and employers, followed by this one U.S. BORDER CONTROL Turn in illegal aliens

Go to either thread for more details on what to do. The TOLL FREE number to report ILLEGAL aliens or those employing ILLEGAL aliens to ICE is: 866-347-2423

How it works:

You are not required to provide your identity to ICE. All that is necessary to request an investigation by ICE is mere suspicion of any activity by ILLEGAL aliens.

ICE and the IRS are especially interested in "visiting" those businesses that employ ILLEGALS "off the books" to avoid the payment of payroll taxes.

Latinos Plan Nationwide Worker Strike

I suggest looking around and see if you might spot a suspect. At work, at school, at a job sight, Micky D's, Store etc.

On the day(current plan is May 1) of this march check to see if you can determine if someone took the day off. Confirming grounds for suspicion.

Then MAKE THE CALL
Again the number is
866-347-2423

:) Easy Does It

25 posted on 03/30/2006 2:33:22 PM PST by eazdzit (Vote AGAINST All NWO PuboCrats !! DO NOT re-elect the least of two evils!!!)
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