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Hispanics, let's remember, were the swing voter group in 2004. Having voted for Al Gore by 30 points in 2000, they sufficiently trusted Bush to back Sen. John Kerry by only an eight-point margin. If the Republican Party now turns its back on these newly swing Latino voters, it may permanently lose its ability to win America's fastest-growing voter group, perhaps dooming the party altogether.

I hate to say it, but I agree with every word. I know everyone is angry about illegal immigration, but if you don't live in California you don't know the half of it. Everyone suffers from illegal immigration, but Pete Wilson's support of Prop 187 doomed California to a decade of dominance by the Democrats, which is 10 times worse.

Perhaps I'm mistaken, but wasn't it the people of California who voted for Prop 187?

It's not the latino vote we have to worry about -- there are plenty of latinos in Florida and New York, but you don't see them marching in the streets. It is the illegal vote that we have to deal worry about. No illegal person should ever be allowed to vote anywhere in this country, and I do believe California has a problem with illegals voting.

Before you decide to make the land of fruits, nuts, and flakes the model for the United States, be sure that state is a model for following this nation's laws.

Appeasement has never worked in history. Either we take care of the situation now, or we will all become like California and suffer the consequences later.

"I know everyone is angry about illegal immigration, but if you don't live in California you don't know the half of it. "

I live in California. I was upset about illegal immigration 20 years ago and 15 years ago. But most of the country, and their politician representatives could have cared less about us in California.

So I decided I had better adjust, accept life on life's terms, or be unhappy. I did manage to adjust, The fact is: there are a lot of Hispanic people in California. More than when I was a kid.

So I am greatly amused now, when people from other regions are involved, now that they are getting some illegal immigration. Greatly amused.

Pete Wilson's support of Prop 187 doomed California to a decade of dominance by the Democrats, which is 10 times worse.

Since Prop 187 was approved by the people themselves, I'm going to hazard a guess that that's not what was responsible for the Republicans' loss in California. As for its effect on Hispanic support for the Republicans, according to Rich Lowry, anyway:

"Republicans were getting about 30 percent of the Hispanic vote before Proposition 187, and have been getting about 30 percent since. Their basic political problem with Hispanics is that they are poor, and poor people vote for Democrats."

Everyone suffers from illegal immigration, but Pete Wilson's support of Prop 187 doomed California to a decade of dominance by the Democrats, which is 10 times worse.

Who did he doom himself with?

The white liberals.?

There are very large Hispanic populations in Kern, Tulare, Fresno, Stanislaus, Merced and San Jaoquin counties yet they all seem to vote Red and conservative.

There are overall few Hispanics in the north coast counties and they seem to always vote blue and liberal.

Rural area Hispanics vote conservative?

Urban area Hispanics vote liberal?

Wonder why that is? I say rhetorically.